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OK, I need to hear from some of you parents or grandparents out there on this one. Let me state at the outset, I am not a parent. I've never had the joy of having a kid, only the pleasure of being one. And still am in more ways than I'm sure my mom cares to think about. Even though I don't have kids of my own, I have always wanted the best for our children and have always expected the best from them.
Now trust me, I'm well aware that children are different and that there are special needs kids who may have disabilities that are not readily apparent. Those kids are not the focus of today's discussion.
So I'm in this restaurant the other day and in comes an impeccably dressed woman with her two children--a boy, who appeared to be three years old or so, and a girl, who looked to be about seven. As the mother stood about three or four feet away from the kids, waiting to place her to-go order, the boy and his sister start playing catch with one of those superballs. Now I don't know if you're familiar with them, but when a superball hits the floor or table, or your head, it can not only knock you senseless, but will bounce about four or five feet in the air and ping pong all over the place. And that's exactly what happened numerous times, since neither the boy nor the girl seemed particularly adept at catching it. Add to that, the boy screaming at the top of his lungs and running around wildly while the ball bounced everywhere, including onto and under the tables of other patrons in the restaurant who were trying to enjoy their meals.
The mother witnessed all of this, as did a number of very annoyed diners, including myself and the restaurant manager. The mom did say "stop" a couple of times as I recall, but both kids not only ignored her, but laughed and got even rowdier. She made no additional attempts to restrict their behavior or seemed to care much about the discomfort her children were causing the other diners. Not that this matters one way or the other, but just so you know, these were not underprivileged kids. Since the restaurant has huge windows, I saw the mom when she drove up in her brand-spanking new Mercedes SUV.
What in the world do you do? The mother was completely ineffective and nobody else in the place said anything to anyone. We all simply tried to enjoy our meals for the 15 minutes or so that these two and their superball ran roughshod over everyone and everything in their path.
Personally, I felt by not saying anything, I contributed to the problem. I certainly did not see it as my place to say anything to the kids. But should I have said something to the mother, or perhaps the manager who also witnessed what was happening? Should HE have said somethng to the mother? I know what would have happened had it been my mother and I was one of the misbehaving children. One sharp look from Mama McEwing immediately instilled the fear of God in me and I would have sat perfectly still for as long as it took to complete her order. I love my mother dearly and I think she did a helluva job raising us, but I don't know that having your kids absolutely petrified of you is the most effective form of parenting either.
Even though I'm not a parent, it seems to me it is the responsibility of the parent(s) to teach children when certain behaviors are appropriate and when they are not. Honestly, I don't blame the kids. They were just doing what kids that age do. And what they were doing was not inherently wrong. They were playing with a ball. Had they been in their yard or in a park or on a playground, their behavior would not only have been perfectly fine, but enjoyable. But in a restaurant where people are eating--where things can be broken or an injury can occur, to me, that's a different story. And if these kids don't respect their mother's authority now, whose authority will they respect later? Or will they have to learn some very hard lessons in life that might have been avoided with some serious training and discipline earlier on?
So when the mother finally leaves the restaurant with her kids, the other patrons began to complain vociferously, even the manager! Yet none of us had done a thing. Our inaction certainly does not absolve the mother of her irresponsibility, but did we all fail these kids in some way at that particular moment? I don't know. Am I expecting too much? Or do I just not get it?
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godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:35 AM

This is understandable, but, are you a step-parent? If not, I will be one of those who will try to help out with your question. And yes each individual child has their own unique characteristic trait. Those types of incidents can be irritating regardless to if you have children or not. Me personally would not allow my children to irritate or bug anyone in a way that I felt would irritate me because I am and was impatient. Yes I let them be children but they knew if mommy gave them that certain look in public, then that meant that it was time to cool it or we (meaning they) were going to make a special trip to the restroom or we were going home and denied of that particular privilege until we understood why. And yes even at the age of 3. Yes they would act silly, but they also knew that while their siblings or cousins were out having fun, they had to stay at home with grand-daddy.
“And that's exactly what happened numerous times, since neither the boy nor the girl seemed particularly adept at catching it. Add to that, the boy screaming at the top of his lungs and running around wildly while the ball bounced everywhere, including onto and under the tables of other patrons in the restaurant who were trying to enjoy their meals.” In this case I would have said something to the manager of the restaurant explaining to them that I would not patronize their business anymore or they would have to say something to the parent, as well as seat me or the parent elsewhere. If you have enough patrons complaining, I do believe that the parent would get offended and take the hint. I hav

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:37 AM

Part 2,
This is understandable, but, are you a step-parent? If not, I will be one of those who will try to help out with your question. And yes each individual child has their own unique characteristic trait. Those types of incidents can be irritating regardless to if you have children or not. Me personally would not allow my children to irritate or bug anyone in a way that I felt would irritate me because I am and was impatient. Yes I let them be children but they knew if mommy gave them that certain look in public, then that meant that it was time to cool it or we (meaning they) were going to make a special trip to the restroom or we were going home and denied of that particular privilege until we understood why. And yes even at the age of 3. Yes they would act silly, but they also knew that while their siblings or cousins were out having fun, they had to stay at home with grand-daddy.
“And that's exactly what happened numerous times, since neither the boy nor the girl seemed particularly adept at catching it. Add to that, the boy screaming at the top of his lungs and running around wildly while the ball bounced everywhere, including onto and under the tables of other patrons in the restaurant who were trying to enjoy their meals.” In this case I would have said something to the manager of the restaurant explaining to them that I would not patronize their business anymore or they would have to say something to the parent, as well as seat me or the parent elsewhere. If you have enough patrons complaining, I do believe that the parent would get offended and take the hin

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:41 AM

Okay,delete the last comment, I do not know what happened or what keeps happening so I will try this again...
Part 2,
I have experienced that a couple of times this month and I asked to be moved and if it consisted, I just got up and left and explained to the manager why, who in turn gave me a credit to return. My now adult children say that I have less patience now than I did when they were growing up (and they do not have children themselves, oooh, I wonder why? SMILE). The restaurant for me is a place to kind of relax while someone caters to me, since I am paying for it and I want to be able to enjoy that moment. I understand that it is a public place, and that we are all human, but we can respect each other to a certain extent. Many times, it is the privileged children that get away with those types of behaviors “just look at Paris.” It is not our place to say anything to the kids because that would not be right, but I have seen people to say some nasty things to the parents. Many times the parents get an attitude with you and want to make a big scene, so that is why I will bring it to the attention of the manager. Otherwise, I will say to the parent, look that ball hit me or my company a couple of times and you need to say or do something with your children. Today, many parents take it personal and feel that you should mind your own business. I had gone to a restaurant where I actually saw a gentleman call the police and tell them that the children were being neglected…“One sharp look from Mama McEwing immediately instilled the fear of God in me and I would have sat

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:42 AM

Part 3,
“One sharp look from Mama McEwing immediately instilled the fear of God in me and I would have sat perfectly still for as long as it took to complete her order. I love my mother dearly and I think she did a helluva job raising us, but I don't know that having your kids absolutely petrified of you is the most effective form of parenting either.” I was raised the same way and so were my children. My daughter is the impatient one, my boys are more tolerable…My daughter will say something like that parent need to learn how to control their children or their children will control them, and she will make it a point until the parent get the point. I usually just get up or tell her to let that parent deal with it because it is not her problem but the parent’s problem…Tony you do not have to be a parent for another parent to understand that it is the parent’s responsibility of the parent(s) to teach children when certain behaviors are appropriate and when they are not. That is our job as parents or caregivers…They should not have been playing ball in a restaurant, that was not the park, in their yard or on a playground. The analogy of the subject is what my daughter said, if you don’t control your children then they will control you…they will have to learn some very hard lessons in life because others will not be as NICE…Personally, I would have complained before the mother left, because saying something after the fact is not helping the mother or the children. I guess with both of my parents being from down SOUTH and instilling certain values and morals and the FEAR OF G

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 9:44 AM

part 4
and instilling certain values and morals and the FEAR OF GOD into us, we learned quick…You are not expecting too much, many people just did not want a problem…I have a friend that is 86 and from Alabama with 12 children and he always say something whenever we all go out to eat and he holds back nothing if you get the point and he usually always gets his point across…he has noooooo patience.

fluffy
Mar 12, 2007 | 11:10 AM

tony ur not expecting 2 much its called being courteous my son is 5 and my daughter is 18mos my son knows not 2 act a fool like that in a restaurant i also work in a restaurant i think the manager should have said something i know at my place the owner would have said something even though ur not a parent u have a legitimate statement the mother should have done something about it without a doubt

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 11:57 AM

See Tony, this person is a perfect example and they work in a restaurant and they understand exactly what I am trying to say...

You have made lefitimate statements concerning you CONCERNS...

ddain read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 12:03 PM

Tony,

As a new parent, my wife and I are cognizant of disturbing people whenever we are in a public place with our baby. We didn't take her to a restaurant until she was old enough to go and behave and keep busy while we were eating. We're taking her on a plane next month, knowing that she's old enough to handle a 3 hour flight. But if she's not behaving, we do what we can to calm her down. It's the responsibility of the parents to keep their kids under control, and not sit there and let them scream and cry. But the problem we have is that most parents either don't care, are too selfish to think about others, or are unable to control their kids.

MeAndMyGirls read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 12:06 PM

I totally agree with Fluffy. My two daughters who are now 11 and 13 have never acted up in a restaurant. I'm not saying that they never tried, but all it took was the little look from me (the one where my eyebrow goes up) and they knew that that wasn't the place. I have always been complimented on their behavior, even on the trip back to Los Angeles from Seattle when I slept the whole 2 hours because I was having a gall stone attack.
The manager should have said something to the mother, after all there were other patrons in the restaurant trying to enjoy their meal.

memoryjoe read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 12:23 PM

you know tony i am a mother of four kids and before we go out to dinner i have always reminded my kids of there manners i started wene they were little and im lucky they behave , but one time my once two year old son he had to go potty so i had taken him to the restroom and on the way back the waitress was bent over giving us her glass of waters and my son being the little pumpkin head he was swated the waitress in the rear , i just about died , my husband laughed because the waitress was attractive and she just quikly turned around and gave him a wink , this however is the son that was told not to stomp in a mud puddle 15 min before his cousins scotts wedding and did you know what he did ? yep stomp the mud and me and him both had mud all over us i could of just died then too ...KIDS GOT TO LOVE THEM ...DEBBIE

memoryjoe read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 12:25 PM

oh yeah i think your great tony , you make me laugh ,

TatianaH read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 2:01 PM

Hey Tony--

I think the management should definitely have said something, being that it seemed the mother was completely ignorant of how disturbing her children were to the other patrons. Before I had my son, (now 7 1/2 months) I would become highly agitated at parents who did absolutely nothing as their little pieholes ran amuck, and I would complain. (Come to think of it, it still annoys me!!) Even though my son is so young (we started taking him into restaurants when he was a month old) so far he is very well behaved, and I am trying to instill that in him at a young age, because I know how annoying it is. We went to the Sonora Cafe (excellent food btw) 2 nights ago, and at the first sign of a screech out of him, I scooped him up and walked around outside until he calmed down, because I don't want to be one of those annoying parents!!

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 2:19 PM

ddain is correct, I believe that this is the problem that most of us have and that is that most parents either don't care, are too selfish to think about others, or are unable to control their kids. I began taking my children out as soon as I was able to get out myself, so they grew up understanding what was allowed and what was not allowed. I am not saying that I did not have a problem from time to time and no parent can say the same because these are kids, and children will be children, but as far as my situation it was quickly nipped in the bud. It is something about that look that you give your children and they just know that they had better not try to misbehave or else…

I do not think that the mother was necessarily being ignorant; I just think that she just did not care. She was being incogitant. I am like Tatiana; my blood boils easily when I become agitated with something that can be avoided.

isingout view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 2:29 PM

Hi Tony,
I know it can be annoying to have things not be perfect, but I believe we can all do our part to help make it so. My kids are grown (25,27,29) but I remember what it was like when we would take them out when they were litte.....we kept them quiet and behaved and tried to make sure they weren't annoying anyone else. But now that they are grown and I usually don't have to make sure they aren't annoying anyone, I put myself in the parents place. If I had been in that restaurant when you were, I would have started paying attention to the kids....asking them questions...can you catch a ball, show me, ...what are you going to have to eat, what is your favorite thing to eat...most kids just want attention and the way they usually get it is to act up. We are all on this world together, might as well try to make it as pleasant for yourself and others. And always remember to look for the humor in things....and be aware when humor is trying to find you. I know I might sound like some sort of Pollyanna, but it seems to work for me. Take care and may there always be news!

samo714 read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 2:44 PM

Well I’m not a dad, but I have taken care of many kids. Being a parent now is harder then it was back in day. Before our parents would smack us around if we did something stupid. That look that they gave us would work for a good reason. Because we all knew they would beat us like a government mule if we didn’t behave. Parents are discouraged to hit kids now, and the kids know this. So they rebel against parents more now because there is no threat behind the verbal warning. I think that is part of the problem. I don’t think that hitting kids is the only solution, but its part of it.

I think a child should receive a verbal warning. If that doesn’t work, then a lecture about what he is doing is wrong, and why it's wrong, and maybe a threat of what's to come if he/she continues misbehaving. Then if that doesn’t work, then I’ll bring out the paddle and blister some behind j/k about the paddle and blistering part. But a smack on butt should come next if all else fails. That’s the best way to go about it, in my opinion.

As for you not saying anything to the mother. Hmm well that could have gone in 2 different directions. One is that she would have felt embarrassed at the fact that she has to be told how to be a mother, and might have actually done something to keep her kids in line. The other way it could have gone is that she would have thought of it as a sign of disrespect. Most likely she would have said something along this line "I know how to raise my kids, don't tell me how to raise my kids. Who are you to tell me how to raise my kids? What do you know?" and would con

samo714 read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 2:57 PM

PART 2
and would continue to bite your head off. So it's a tough call to say if you did or didn’t do the right decision. Next time you’re in the same problem, say something. Tell us how it all goes.

I think the biggest reason why kids are the way they are is mainly parents. Those parents aren’t ready to have kids, because they are still to into themselves. I think when a person decides to have a child they have to do everything they can for that child. That means making many sacrifices. I think it's so wrong to see a mom with a designer brand hand bag, and have a child with old broken down shoes and cloths that don’t fit properly. Priorities are way off there.

beepbeep read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 3:22 PM

Dear Tony,

I have the same problem with parents who bring a crying infant into a threatre.

Most of my girlfriends have children. Even the 18 yr. olds. We take them to Chuckie Cheese, which is the home of "CHILDREN GONE WILD."

In fact, some of the white trash parents,(which makes white people look bad), use the place like a kindergarten. They drop them off, do some drug deal, then pick'em up before anyone is the wiser.

Now I may be a little biased, but I have to put up with this trash, which is worse than a big mess, and a bad stench in my rear yard.

Thats why I am a homebody. There is so much trash out there. It's a dangerous world and lousy parents are most probably the root of this evil. Children are the products of their parents. And this learned behavior (or lack of it) reflects on the upbringing.

Thats why I have 10 foot walls on three sides of my yard. That way, when a dirtbag jumps over it, on the way down he might break an ankle, which becomes the job of 'Beep-Beep' the Chihuahua, to bite it.



That way, when I come running out of the house with a Taser (less than lethal force) and 'light him up,' there is no way he'll be jumping over a 10 foot wall, while doing the funky chicken, with two barbs sticking out of his back.

Those miscreant children who reek havoc in restaurants usually become adult delinquents, whose laurels rests in becoming Future Burglars of America.

Parents control your children!

End of discourse,

Beep-Beep

funnychelle read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 4:20 PM

I'm with you Tony. If I had tried that as a kid, fuhgettaboutit. My dad would have given me "the look" and I knew I was in for it when I got home. I have 2 daughters who are now tweens, but I did raise them right by not acting up anywhere. I was blessed and lucky. It is hard when you want to say something to parents of unruly kids. You don't want to make the matter worse by the parents going off on you. But now that I'm older, I can't stand things getting on my nerves. So, next time, talk to the manager and let them know that you and the other patrons are getting annoyed about what is going on. Even if the other patrons aren't, say it anyway. Another thing is tell the kids "hey you shouldn't be playing like that in here". If that doesn't work, give them the "momma McEwing look", that may work too without having to say anything.
But yeah, I can't stand "parents" who can't control their kids.

godzgirl read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2007 | 5:35 PM

Samo714,
this is absolutely correct but I was trying to be nice about it. In actuality, our parents would stomp a mud hole in our behind so tough that we would see the moon shining from the other side (SMILE). You know someone once called Child Protective Services against me and the police asked my then 6 year old did mom beat her. Her response was no my mom does not beat us and when she does disciple us it is out of love and I would rather for her to beat me than grow up with you beating me and end up in jail…they laughed and asked her did I tell her to say that and she said no, but I have seen and heard what some of the grown ups have been saying. In actuality, I cannot think of the Penal Code at the moment, the law states that any parent or guardian has the right to discipline their child within reasonable doubt. In other words don’t break their bones or leave bruises (now a days) and you will be cool.

tonymcewing read my blog
Mar 12, 2007 | 7:49 PM

I would like to personally thank everyone who comments on the blogs I write. It isn't important whether I agree or disagree with anyone, but that there is interaction and dialogue and that we have fun at the same time. You have no idea how much I appreciate all your opinions and I really do read every single comment, even if I don't respond to each one. You inspire me to want to write more. And don't be afraid to disagree with me or perhaps show me another perspective I may have missed. I welcome that, as long as we're respectful of one another. Thanks again guys!

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