Northton

" elemination of corruption, lawyers and politicians"

Now there are some things that will never go away.

"Can it be done? "

I don't see the difference between what you're advocating and what the United Nations IS..

Treating NATIONS as Individual States with Common Interrests,, with regard to World Affairs,, was PRECIRELY what the United Nations was SUPPOSED to be ALL about..

Instead,, they have of late adopted a course leading to a "Socialist" vision of "Unity" through the establishment of a World Authority under a World Government..An Authoritorian Tyranny under the Guise of "for the benefit of the Common Good"..

And NO..History continues to demonstrate TIME and TIME again that "UNITY" of the sort that YOU are talking about can ONLY be accomplished with the THREAT of FORCE,, and the willful USE of force when the threat fails,, such as one might find in a Dictatorship..

And THAT can ONLY lead to the Unity of Subjugation..

The Global economy is ALREADY a One World..... Ford car parts from allllll over the place, Boeing aircraft ditto, TVs from Red China, Pharmacuticals from Red CHina, Fruit from Chile, Peru.... But never let the UN take over. WIth Germany and France leaning back Right, I cant see the US going Socialist with Obama, who would love to be Mr ONE WORLD EU guy.

"Yes, the use of force is necessary and would indeed have to be used to keep the peace."

"Would it be so bad for all nations to attack a rouge country-state? After all, the rouge is breaking international law right?"

Exactly. That is why we are in Iraq!

Your plan sounds all well and good, but it can never work. The impotent UN we have now is proof of that. I don't see a UN anytime soon that will actually work in the capacity it was meant to. Too many countries will ignore the resolutions if they are not in thier particular favor.

This will leave the other members that are actually fully committed to make them toe the line. Much like what is happening today! It has been tried, and it has failed miserably.

I have heard the definition of an idiot is one that will try the same thing over and over, and expect a different result.

That may apply in this case.

However, if you want to entertain the idea of a real United Nations, just like the United States, the only way that would be possible is for the US to take over the world. That is most likely impossible, but that is the only way I can see it happening.

We would have to start with a few basic laws on human rights, freedom of religion, and a few others and agree to take action against countries who won't follow these base rules.

In time, as countries learn to work together, as our views become more homogenous in nature, we could expand the laws.

Surely there are a few things we can agree and act upon.

what makes everyone think that we aren't already living in a new world order? There isn't a true democracy in the world, including here in the U.S. Look at the Presidential choices in the U.S. Do they really provide much choice?

Does anyone honestly believe that any country is unaffected by the "outside" world or that the Presidents, etc. are all in complete control? Controlling the masses is paramount.

...OK lets “start” with basic human rights , do you think you can get Iran and Israel (let alone the rest of the world) to agree on a statements of basic human rights ? How about Tibet and China , North Korea and Japan , Venezuela and the USA ...etc.
Next lets “talk” about ending world poverty ...what do you call poverty ? What would be “solving it” ? ....a world wide minimum wage ? LOL O I know lets take the world population and divide it by the world GDP and that is what everyone gets paid each day (minus current level USA taxes that is!)

You know, Ronco, I was thinking the same thing. Even basic human rights are hard to agree upon. Hell, I still think torture is a crime.

Here's the thing. We have to get the majority of the world to join by offering something That something might be bigger trade, stability, security, peace, or perhaps free nitrogen for your tires. Perhaps only a great external threat can unite us. Perhaps the time isn't right.

When I say poverty stricken I mean countries who need help with organization. Either they need knowledge, they are depressed by constant warfare, or just plain famine.

Just like we all help our fellow states in times of disaster, so the UN will intervene on behalf of the entire world. And we will cheer for our fellow countries when they come out okay.

Think of all of the strife that can be avoided by unity.

You know northton it would saure be nice to be wrong on this and have you be right.

I think so too LQQKING.