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This is an excerpt from an article on the CNN web site by Ruben Navarrette Jr.:

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- For most of last night's debate on CNN, the Democratic presidential candidates did what you would expect: They argued with one another and tried to separate themselves from their opponents on issues ranging from Iraq to health care to gay marriage.

But it was on immigration reform that things got really interesting. There, some of the candidates seemed to be arguing with themselves and trying to separate what they believe now from what they believed previously. And that needle isn't always easy to thread.

Gov. Bill Richardson initially said that he supported the bipartisan Senate compromise, and now he says he is against it. When pressed during the debate to explain why a proposed "earned legalization" doesn't amount to amnesty, he said that, under the Senate plan (which he opposes), illegal immigrants seeking permanent residency would have to return home temporarily as part of a "touchback" requirement. Yet, Richardson said, he considers that same provision "unworkable."

Sen. Hillary Clinton says that she favors giving illegal immigrants a path to legalization. It's a reasonable position, but who would have it expected from the same elected official who, in February 2003, talked tough on the issue by reassuring the listening audience of WABC radio in New York that she was "adamantly against illegal immigrants?" If you're "adamantly against" something, why support a measure that excuses it and even, if you believe the critics, encourages more of the same in the years to come?

Sen. Barack Obama voted last year to build 750 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexican border. Now he supports giving illegal immigrants a path to earned legalization. What a confusing message that sends to those who are considering entering the United States illegally: "We don't want you here, and we're going to try to fence you out. But, if you get in, we'll give you the chance to stay permanently."

And Sen. Joe Biden admitted during the debate that a wall wouldn't keep out illegal immigrants. That would be the same Joe Biden who last year, yep, voted for the wall that won't keep out illegal immigrants. So why support something that you know isn't going to work? Biden tried to sell the line that his intent in supporting the fencing was to keep out illegal drugs not illegal immigrants, who can go over, around or under any fence. As if drug smugglers haven't known how to go over, around or under border fencing.

What the?........... Why would anyone vote for ANY of these people? This is ridiculous! How can they (in good conscience) back-peddle just to sound good? Why is it so hard for them to have an opinion and stick with it? Why would the American people want someone to represent them when they can't even make up their minds?

 

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Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 4, 2007 | 5:07 PM

The Dems are in even worse shape than we are at this point...I'm tellin' ya - We need "LEADERSHIP", not the same ol' MUMBO JUMBO...

Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 4, 2007 | 5:09 PM

It all goes back to that lesser of two evils business...I'm at a loss to support ANYONE right now...

gjflash read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2007 | 9:04 PM

If Fred Thompson comes out and says, that if elected President, he will de-amnesty the illegal aliens, he will have won my heart forever. I suspect I'm not alone.

Who do you think would have the best chance against Thompson?
Shrillary, Osama, the Breck Girl, Fat Albert, or a damp sponge? My money is on the sponge.

ld88 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 5:51 AM

I don't know gj.... Fat Albert would have the "African American" AND the over-weight votes!!! LOL!!!

Abunai read my blog view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 7:50 AM

The Democrat debate was as inert as usual. No suprises there other than Hillary trying to get back to the center which nobody is buying.

Shame the Dems can't be on tonites debate with Fox. This will be the debate to watch. You will hear a little more than every excuse under the sun to raise taxes on the top incomes. You just might hear about government spending being cut for a change! Something the Dems would NEVER go for! (they complain about spending but thats different..)

Luv2read read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 8:49 AM

That's politics. The politicians stand for what is favorable at the moment. When the wind changes, so does their stand on an issue. Politicians are afraid of taking a stand on an issue and sticking with it, especially if that issue becomes unpopular. Fred Thompson looks like the best candidate to me at this time.

Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 9:15 AM

Could it be possible? Fred Thompson our knight in shining wool blend?

SpecialEd read my blog view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 9:20 AM

That democratic debate was nothing more than a back patting party I have never seen a bigger group of weak non leaders in my life and their thoughts were rediculous. All they were doing is saying what they think the people want to hear. none of their plans could be done without raising taxs through the roof. I think we would get further with a basket of huckleberrys. We are doomed if the democraps become president. Welcome to the world of communism. Get used to saying " Heil Hillery" Oh yeah don't forget to extend your right arm with your finger out straight

Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 9:35 AM

I've got a finger for 'em...

SpecialEd read my blog view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 9:40 AM

Me too one on each hand

ld88 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 10:00 AM

Okay, so we're all agreed? Fred Thompson for president!!! I just realized that Thompson is a family name... I wonder if we're related... :)

DiMur view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 10:41 AM

Democratic clarity - that's got to be one of the best oxymorons I've ever heard (emphasis on 'moron').

I've got a finger for them too, and a vote for Thompson, for what our vote is worth anymore...

Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 10:54 AM

DiMur-Yeah, that's right up there with "Government Intelligence" ROFL!

ld88 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 10:58 AM

Just remember, our county is run by morons at times......

Isn't there a rep "round table" coming up? Or has it already happened?

Scarlet12 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 11:07 AM

You know they talked about it, formed a committee, hired an indepedent research group, lobbied for who would actually build the thing, and the bill is now actually in the Senate. With any luck, they'll have a vote in place and will actually be able to start holding meetings in fiscal 2011. That is, if no one appeals any decisions that were actual made...

ld88 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 11:27 AM

The round table? It will never be built. There's no where for the one in charge of the commitee to sit.... LOL!!!

DiMur view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 2:03 PM

Hell, they're probably arguing about who IS in charge!

ld88 read my blog
Jun 5, 2007 | 2:15 PM

HA!!! LOL!!!

NellyNelly
Jun 5, 2007 | 9:32 PM

My youngest daughter described an oxymoron as a dumb blonde that could not breathe at 11 when she was told that what she said was an oxymoron. It rather fits most democrats, no matter what their skin, hair and eye color is. By the way she has decided to become a lawyer and can argue better than anyone I know.

gjflash read my blog view my photos
Jun 5, 2007 | 10:48 PM

Can't all teenage daughters, Nelly? Mine is a master of argument.

I just hope she remains one of the "good guys".

The libs of 2018 (if any will still exist) should be very, very afraid.

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