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OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS
Sep 19, 2007 | 5:21 AM
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Before I get started on my rant I would like to say that I am not including mentally or physically handicapped children. Or children who were seriously ill or injured during school. I am talking about the average child who goes to school for 13 years to ultimately receive a diploma. In recent years I have been doing some digging in to school policies and proceedures concerning graduation. I must say that I have never been so disgusted with the school and the parents in my life!  Is anyone familiar with programs such as Taps and Life Skills? These programs are set up for children who go thru school each year that fail. These failing children are put into these programs to achieve a diploma. High schools do not hold a failing child back. They pass them on to the next grade every year. Then in the 11th or beginning of 12th grade they are placed in these programs. In some cases the child can do a hour up to three hours of work a day to make up years worth of failed work plus pass the year they are in!  Not to mention they receive schood credits for working! Um our country already has an abundance of pizza makers and McDonalds employees!!!!!!! In the life skills program these children are sent to (in my school district it's Akron) one day a week to learn how to take care of themselves. Things such as house work, laundry, shopping, etc. Isn't this the parents job? Not to mention these children also earn school credits for working!!!!!!!!!!  What a slap in the face to the children that work hard for there diplomas. The schools and parents should be embarrassed, but nope they are not. All they care about is the government funding if it's the school, and the empty diploma if it's the parent. Another prime example of the dumbing down of America!
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Erock327 read my blog
Sep 19, 2007 | 11:17 AM

This is what happens when the schools are forced to raise children with crappy parents. The schools could fail these kids, but if they actually hold them to true standards to pass, many of them will fail repeatedly with no hope of EVER graduating. How much money should the school system spend on each "problem" child before they just pass him/her out of the system? You make some very good points in your post, and most of it comes back to parents who just don't care.

Ask any kid who has recently graduated (legitimately) what 56 divided by 8 is. I've asked 4 relatives that have graduated in the last couple of years or will graduate this year, and ONE of them knew the answer.....And they live in school systems listed as "Excellent" by state standards........New math my A55!
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 11:30 AM

I know. I am so disgusted with this crap. People do not care if there child is as dumb as a stump as long as they get that piece of paper!
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 11:44 AM

Oh and how about just failing them out of the school system? Ridiculous. These children are graduating with 7th, 8th, 9th grade educations. It would do the child better to fail them then to allow them to falsely graduate with that type of education. It's setting them up to fail. Let the child fall early in life while there's still time to recover.
ebonyeyes1 read my blog
Sep 19, 2007 | 12:12 PM

You have to take everything into consideration, some children have learning problems that are not identified until it's too late, or they are not diagnosed correctly. I don't know who's to blame but true enough it dosen't make sense to just push a child through to the next grade when not prepared to do so, but does it make sense to release them into the world with no concept of taking care of themselves? And there is absolutely nothing wrong with working at a mcdonalds, some people work at mcdonalds and do just fine in life(that is if you work your way up) but my point is sometimes school is not for everyone some kids have a hard time with school and depend on these programs to help them in life. they are not falsely graduating they are graduating with a different type of degree, a life degree, while other students graduate with a economic degree
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 12:22 PM

Are you aware that over 60% of teens are diagnosed each year with some type of learning disability!!!!!!! Do you really believe that many children have disorders! That's another ploy for the schools to get government funding. Each mentally handicapped child brings in even more government subsidies to a school system! Not only are they allowing these children to graduate without any education they are labeling them disabled for profit!!!!!!!!!!
ebonyeyes1 read my blog
Sep 19, 2007 | 1:33 PM

i am aware of this, and i totally agree alot of kids are misdiagnosed, i'm just saying don't knock these programs because you think these kids are getting special privelages, true enough i'm sure there are several that do not deserve the program, but i'm glad it's there for those that do.
Erock327 read my blog
Sep 19, 2007 | 6:17 PM

I guess I'm kinda taking the "middle" road on this one. It's rediculous that schools have to offer some of these programs, but they are a necessary evil when the parents don't do their job.
Hittokiri_korru read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 7:32 PM

I go to life skills my self and I can tell you that students get a better education their. Even though students at life skills do in 3 years at 4 hours a day what it takes regular high school students to do in 4 years at 6-8 hours a day is because the teaching methods. Life Skills uses a online computer program that explains things better and a lot quicker. The teacher quality is better because they can be more personal with a smaller class room.

School districts cannot deny any student a education, even if they are expelled. They would much rather pass a troubled child on to a place like Life Skills than send a personal teacher to teach them.

As for learning disorders they are definitely misdiagnosed to often, even I have ADHD even though I disagree with the H in that diagnosis.
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 8:07 PM

There isn't a child in these programs in my school that go for three or four hours a day. Also I have to say that most computer projects keep children from learning how to spell. Spell check is ridiculous. When you turn in a paper that's totally done with spell check the child never learns. Or how about the math classes that there main goal is to teach children how to use a calculator? These classes are not accelerated classes except for the fact that years of learning is cut out for graduation purposes. My school system is one of the top schools in my area and it has become a joke. The yearly state report card's numbers are pumped up because of these programs, and the lowering of the school standards. I worked in my schools for a few years and I saw all this and much more, and if you hard line question the school principals and teachers of these programs they do agree but say they have no choice. To that I say BULL! Oh and no the school can't deny any child an education legally but they do it every year by doing everything I just said above!
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 19, 2007 | 8:43 PM

Also be very sure that the school is teaching the level of classes needed. They assure you that your child has all the required classes and amounts of classes to graduate but neglect to tell you that the level of these classes are below college levels. I have three children that are graduated. They all graduated with a 3.3 GPA or above. All three failed the math and english on the SAT's! Reason being, that our school taught below the college levels in these areas! Why?, to better the scores for the state report card day. So then you have to take high school classes in college that average about 6 credits each but the kicker is the child receives no college credits for these classes!!!!!!!!!!!! Parents need to pay close attention to what goes on with there childrens education because they are being lied to or at the very least the schools are guilty of omission. Know what to ask and don't let the school tell you all's well because statistics of American education say otherwise!
nikkiautumn read my blog
Sep 23, 2007 | 10:35 AM

Heck, in my opinion the high school diploma is far over rated anyways in our society! Please it's an equivalent to a day care diploma in the real world! Lets face it where is that piece of paper gonna get you anyways?

College education is really the only answer anymore unless you are going into a heavy trade or have a family member who can "help" you into a profession somehow. And even in the "trades" professions anymore there is schooling required in order to get top pay.

High School is just the stepping stone, and hell, what's the difference, when you can get your GED anyways and then move on!lol!

Oh and the thing about spell check, lmao, I didn't know that alot of people even knew that existed! Have you ever read alot of correspondence by high schooler's these days? They don't even use written English anymore, they use the new "textlish"! You/U, For/4, tonight/2nite, LOL! And some of it I cannot even understand almost a whole new techno language!
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2007 | 10:50 AM

I would tend to agree with you about the diploma. It's bad enough with one. My point is the fact that a diploma is supposed to represent a certain amount of education. Which in my opinion is seriously lacking to begin with. But why make it worse with false pretenses of an education of some sort. Not to mention if this person even wants to go to college before 24 they'll have thousands of dollars spent on high school classes is college and will earn no credits for it. It seems that not many parents are interested at all in there children getting a good education anymore. That's too bad. No education leads to a lack of intelligence which is already being shown with the younger generations. Also it is a contributing factor for jobs leaving our country. Which no one seems to understand either. PS. Where have you been lately?
nikkiautumn read my blog
Sep 23, 2007 | 12:23 PM

Went back to college and have been moving. Also had emergency surgery last Friday, so been quite the busy bee. When it rains it pours!lol! Thanks for asking klh! Sometimes I wonder if people even notice, or if anyone even remembers me anymore!lol!
klh1886 read my blog view my photos
Sep 23, 2007 | 12:39 PM

Well I'm sorry for all the bad luck for you lately. I hope it's starting to straighten out. Plus feel better from your surgery. At least hopefully you'll get a couple weeks of rest, and yes it usually does rain in the bad luck department. But try to keep your chin up it won't last forever even though it seems like it some times.
TheShadowKnows read my blog view my photos
Sep 24, 2007 | 6:25 AM

Ok, I've got to add my two cents worth. I don't know what the schools are teaching kids these days.
And by the way, it's not just the schools in Ohio either. The problem is nation wide. I have several grandchildren, mostly in California but some here in Ohio also. Having a conversation with my Ohio granddaughter and she tells me that she has a special teacher that comes to her third grade class twice a week. And what does she teach? First she speaks to the whole class and then with each student one on one. My grand daughter is being told that it's perfectly ok to fail on tests as long as she feels good about herself. So, as long as she feels good about herself she has no need to strive for good grades. They don't matter! And apparently today's teachers no longer place gold stars on a students' paper for getting a high grade. Why not? They don't want students to feel bad for not getting a gold star. They get a happy face instead. BUT, EVERYONE gets a happy face!
I recently had two of my grandsons from California visit me for the summer. One is twelve and the other is sixteen. I drove them from California to Ohio so we had plenty of time to talk and also to talk about places that we were going past as we traveled.
We stopped to see Meteror Crater in Arizona which lead to some conversation about what meterors are, where they come from, star constellations and so on. Meterors? What are those I was asked? And what are constellations?
I was taught about constellations in the second grade. Even got a gold star for my Orion drawing. But my grandsons didn't know anything ab
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