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McClellan: WH wanted him to stay silent

Mike Allen2 hours, 10 minutes ago

Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan, speaking out for the first time since publication of his searing memoir, told NBC's "Today" show on Thursday that he erroneously believed what President Bush was saying about the war but now is answering to a higher loyalty: “a loyalty to the truth.”

“The White House would prefer that I not talk openly about my experiences,” he said in a lengthy, at times combative interview with anchor Meredith Vieira. “These words didn’t come to me easy. … I’m disappointed that things didn’t turn out the way we all hoped they would.”

He added: “I have a higher loyalty than my loyalty necessary to my past work. That's a loyalty to the truth."

A White House official replied: "No one at the White House ever told McClellan not to talk about his experiences."

McClellan said he "believed" what Bush was saying about the war — and the president did, too. “I trusted the president's foreign policy team and I believed the president when he talked about the grave and gathering danger from Iraq,” McClellan said. “I believe he believed it was a grave danger, too. He convinced himself of that. When the administration was talking about Iraq, it was talked about as a problem that needed to be addressed. After Sept. 11, it was talked about as a grave danger. You get caught up in the White House bubble, you get caught up in the affection for the man you're serving and defer.”

Asked if he’ll ever talk to the president again, McClellan said: “I don’t know. I certainly don’t expect it any time soon. I know this is a tough book for some people to accept.”

McClellan’s book, “What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception,” has provoked a furious counterattack from his former colleagues, who call it “sad,” “puzzling” and “pathetic.”

McClellan accused Vice President Cheney of failing his boss. “In a number of ways, he has not served the president well,” McClellan said. “Part of it is the secrecy and compartmentalization … in the White House.”

And McClellan said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, when she was White House national security adviser, gave in too often to Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

“I felt that too often she was too accommodating … of the other strong personalities on the foreign policy team … and too deferential to those individuals,” he said.

Former presidential counselor Dan Bartlett, following McClellan on “Today,” said McClellan had used “very inflammatory words” like “propaganda,” with “not a lot of evidence.”

“He never communicated to us that he had these personal misgivings,” Bartlett said. “There’s not a lot of specific evidence about the most explosive charges.”

Bartlett said the book is “fundamentally wrong” and says he would not personally have participated in a propaganda effort.

McClellan said that even at the time, he thought that the country was “rushing into” the Iraq war. But McClellan said he was he was caught up in “the post-9/11 mentality” and so accepted what the president was saying.

"I was in doubt, like a lot of Americans," McClellan said. "I felt like we were rushing into this. But because of my position and my affection for the president and my belief and trust in he and his advisers, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Looking back on it, reflecting on it now, I don't think I should have. ... The expectations later came back to haunt us, because they were out of whack.”

McClellan said his mission had been to write “openly and honestly about what I lived and learned.”

“The larger message has been lost in the mix of the original reaction to it,” he said. “I believe it’s important to look back and reflect on my experience and talk to people about what I learned and what we can learn from it.”

McClellan says the book’s “larger message” is the problems with the “permanent campaign culture.” He said that’s the opposite of what he expected when he came to Washington after serving then-Gov. Bush in Texas.

“I had all this great hope that we were going to come to Washington and change it,” McClellan recalled. “He talked about being a uniter, not a divider. … And then we got to Washington and I think we got caught up in playing the Washington game the way it’s played today.”

“These are good and well-intentioned people,” McClellan added.

Asked bluntly if Bush had let him down, McClellan said: “I grew increasingly disillusioned.”

McClellan added: “There’s no one I’m harder on in the book, I don’t think, than myself.” He says he blames himself “for putting myself in the position” of passing on information about the CIA leak case that turned out to be inaccurate.

As part of a sophisticated media counterattack by Bush allies, McClellan’s predecessor Ari Fleischer asked on ABC’s “Good Morning America”: “Which Scott is the real one?”

“This is heartbreaking to me,” Fleischer said. “This makes me wonder if Scott ever believed the things he said from the podium.”

Fleischer said that for McClellan to now “turn tail and say these things … makes you question his convictions … either now, or when he stood at the podium.”

On the question of how much information was available to McClellan in the White House, Fleischer said: “It’s not loop or no loop. It’s whether Scott meant the things he said.”

Asked if McClellan is still his friend, Bartlett said: “He is.”

McClellan is set to appear Thursday night on MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” and Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” with Tim Russert


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Kalayna read my blog
May 29, 2008 | 12:55 PM

If Scott Mcclellens assertions are true then why did he stay there and work so long, why didn't he quit and blow the whistle back then. Sounds to me like he needs money, couldn't find another job, wants the lime light one more time. In reviewing the things he was saying on TV when he was the official voice of the white house, he must have been a lier back then too.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 4:04 PM

That`s exactly what the administration wants you to think. TO HELL WITH THE TRUTH ! McCllelan was fiercely loyal to Bush. TOO LOYAL ! That`s why he stayed in that administration, hoping that he was wrong about the things that he was witnessing and experiencing. Finally his` love of God and country over-rode his` loyalty to a liar and a manipulator and he finally stood up for TRUTH !

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 4:19 PM

Like rats scurrying off of a sinking ship.

I wouldn't be surprised if more loyal Bushie rats start jumping ship and telling the American people the truth.

Meanwhile in Mississippi, the Senate race in a state that voted 60+% for G.W. Bush now has the Democrat pulling ahead of his Republican competitor!

MISSISSIPPI!

The Doom of the Republican party is approaching, like the Nazi party that refused to admit that it was loosing W.W.II and surrounded by the Russians and Americans while hiding in a bunker.

The Republican party is refusing to admit that it is surrounded and about to be stepped on by the mighty boots of the American people!

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 5:34 PM

ah gorby, RAT would be the key word there.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 6:01 PM

Aaaaah Princess, I know this is a bitter pill to have to swallow, and I feel your` pain. I can imagine if the shoe were on the other foot how I would feel. But I KNOW you are a very intelligent person. You get hung up on denial, but when the undeniable TRUTH is laid bare, not from someone who heard it from someone, who just heard it from someone.....but from an actual participant who readily admits his` part in the ongoing deception, I`m sure you can make the connection just from the things you have witnessed and come up with the obvious deduction.

Kalayna read my blog
May 29, 2008 | 6:24 PM

I still don't buy it guys, how is it that he played the game when it was worth his wild, with no guilt back then. He should be nonimated for an oscar for his acting back then. I still think he sees dollar signs with this book first, and his loyality to god and country may just be way down the list.

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 6:36 PM

no casey, i read it & yes it baffled me, but i have not decided yet if i believe it. time will tell.

it was distressing news, no doubt about it. but i can't help wondering (all on my own, without any help from the media) why he waited so long to say these things, why he didn't just resign, why he didn't blow the whistle before now.....something is just not right about this whole thing.

kalayna, i think you are correct. we shall see, i'm sure the conservative media will root it all out........this is something they LOVE! LOL

Kalayna read my blog
May 29, 2008 | 6:51 PM

the ole mighty dollar will cause people to say and write just about anything.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 7:42 PM

The ole mighty dollar will cause people to say and do things no matter how high an office you hold.

I think he wrestled with his` conscience about to whom his` loyalties should belong. When you are a confidante of The President of the United States, It`s a difficult decision to give up this kind of information. This had to be extreme remorse for his`part in this deception, and love of his` country and fellow Americans. They deserve no less than the truth.

Hacksaw read my blog
May 29, 2008 | 7:55 PM

It’s funny how when both Paul O’Neill & Richard Clarke both wrote their scathing “tell-all” books, then White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan questioned both their motives and integrity, and asked why if they both had felt that way at the time, why neither of them ever spoke up then, or even resigned in protest….the very same can now be asked of him but the answer in all three cases is obvious – lack of guts or honesty, and a desire to collect some cash!

Nice, heartwarming memoirs about one’s time in Washington generally do not sell half as effectively as the juicy, behind the scenes scandalous stories.

Just like the Clinton Administration saw less than flattering books written about them by Dee Dee Myers, George Stephanopoulos & Dick Morris after they all left, now that George W. Bush is the President it’s now his turn….as always, I consider the source and their potential motivations and when guys get fired like Morris & McClellan did, then their motivations and wishes for revenge (and cash) are always pretty transparent.

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 5:31 AM

The books by Richard Clark, George Tenet, and now Scott McClellen have all confirmed what the left and the liberals in this country have been saying since day one, that the administration deliberately manipulated and cherry picked intelligence, and in some cases made stuff up in order to sell an immoral and foolish preemptive invasion and occupation of Iraq.

the 25% of Conservative Republicans who still think otherwise are the same people who don't believe in Evolution, Global Warming, Stem Cell Research, Universal Healthcare, Equal Rights for all Americans and many other important issues.

The obvious question follows: If they (conservatives) were wrong about Bush and the Iraq mistake what else could they be wrong about? The environment, the economy, education, healthcare, science?

girlscout read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 6:54 AM

He didn't say anything at the time because he didn't want to bite the hand that feeds him. And I'm sure his thoughts were to make money on it later by writing a book. None of this means that what he says is not true. There have been tons of authors who wrote 'tell all" books AFTER they no longer held the position. Truth with a little embellishment? Probably. But where there's smoke, there's fire.

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 7:09 AM

People already knew everything he wrote in the book, for a long time now.

We already knew the administration distorted and cherry picked and invented intelligence to justify the immoral preemptive invasion and occupation of Iraq.

The only people who are "surprised" by this are a few Conservative Republicans who have some independent thought left in their minds and are able to see the light at the end of the cult

Kalayna read my blog
May 30, 2008 | 10:42 AM

This is what Bob Dole had to say, I think he is right on.

Bob Dole yesterday sent a scalding email to Scott McClellan, excoriating the former White House spokesman as a "miserable creature" who greedily betrayed his former patron for a fast buck.

In an extraordinary message obtained and authenticated by Politico, Dole uses his trademark biting wit to portray McClellan as a classic Washington opportunist.

"There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues," Dole wrote in a message sent yesterday morning. "No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique."

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 11:15 AM

Where was Bob Doles criticism of the crimes of the Bush Administration?

It seems like the pot calling the kettle black, since Dole as a prominent Republican would have some sway over other Republicans to prevent the Iraq invasion from ever occuring.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 11:27 AM

"Nice, heartwarming memoirs about one’s time in Washington generally do not sell half as effectively as the juicy, behind the scenes scandalous stories." - Hacksaw

Unfortunately, there are no "Nice, heartwarming memoirs about one’s time in Washington" associated with the Bush administration. McClellan didn`t get fired. He resigned because he could NOT in good conscience remain a part of a web of deception to the American people.

"Bob Dole yesterday sent a scalding email to Scott McClellan, excoriating the former White House spokesman as a "miserable creature" who greedily betrayed his former patron for a fast buck."

Bob Dole is just one more ass kisser whose credentials are questionable. Why, when the truth is laid bare, are you lemmings still in denial ? Hey ! I feel your` pain. But the TRUTH is the TRUTH ! Until you can put forth a CONCRETE reason why it is NOT, then it is SO !

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 11:49 AM

Self delusion are the hardest type of lies to expose.

These conservatives do not want to believe the truth, so everytime they are confronted with inconsistencies in their belief that George W. Bush is a great president and the Republican party is good for America, they simply find a way in their mind to discredit that information, even when it comes from mulitple credible sources like Colin Powel, Scot Mcllelan, George Tenet, Special prosecutor Fitzgerald, Scooter Libby.

If George W. Bush himself told the nation that he did in fact lie, mislead, distort and cherry pick intelligence to push a war that the American people would not have otherwise signed onto, it still wouldn't be enough for Conservative Republicans who fall in the 20% of loyal Conservative Bushies who will find some bizarre way to discredit the man they want so bad to be good so that they can credit him at the same time for finally coming clean!

That is the height of doublethought and doublespeak! They can credit and discredit a former white house staffer and Bush loyalist for coming clean and for being a traitor at the same time!

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 3:18 PM

It`s sad. These are very intelligent people who refuse to accept the truth. There were people in my` lifetime that I was bitterly disappointed with. But the world keeps on turning and life goes on. The evil men do lives after them, but the good is often interred with their` bones. So let it be with Caesar! (Bush)

Hacksaw read my blog
May 31, 2008 | 12:03 AM

“He didn't say anything at the time because he didn't want to bite the hand that feeds him. And I'm sure his thoughts were to make money on it later by writing a book. None of this means that what he says is not true. There have been tons of authors who wrote 'tell all" books AFTER they no longer held the position. Truth with a little embellishment? Probably. But where there's smoke, there's fire.” – girlscout

Hogwash!

This gutless turd is every bit the coward that Bob Dole says he is. He’s bitter about being fired because he was a lousy press secretary, and this is his revenge. It’s no coincidence that he waited until now, “political season” to release this book, the very same thing he criticized Richard Clarke for doing in 2004.

Check out what this hypocrite said back then about Clarke & his book:

Q Why do you think he's doing this?

McClellan: Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he's raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book. Certainly let's look at the politics of it. His best buddy is Rand Beers, who is the principal foreign policy advisor to Senator Kerry's campaign. The Kerry campaign went out and immediately put these comments up on their website that Mr. Clarke made.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 1:23 AM

In the first place, McClellan was NOT fired. He resigned in all probability because he could not honestly continue to be a part of deceiving the American people. As far as politics are concerned, even if your` accusations are true, political campaigns on either side take advantage of events. I think you`ll admit this is true. The bottom line is America has been the real loser through this. Deception and manipulation have no place in American government.

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I am 69 yrs. old and I have never seen our country in such dire straits as it is today. I was born in W.Va., Grew up in Pa. with Bobby Vinton, and ended up in Oh. Back then, when you graduated from high school in W.Va.,Pa.,or Ky., you received a diploma and a road map to Ohio. I grew up in the 50`s and 60`s, so I know what really good times in our` country were. GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN !

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