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NOW, IS THERE ANY DOUBT ?????

Liars, Actually



Exposing Washington's spinning permanent campaign

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House CorrespondentWed May 28, 5:16 PM ET

In a White House full of Bush loyalists, none was more loyal than Scott McClellan, the bland press secretary who spread the company line for all the government to follow each day. His word, it turns out, was worthless, his confessional memoir a glimpse into Washington's world of spin and even outright deception.

Instead of effective government, Americans were subjected to a "permanent campaign" that was "all about manipulating sources of public opinion to the president's advantage," McClellan writes in a book stunning for its harsh criticism of Bush. "Presidential initiatives from health care programs to foreign invasions are regularly devised, named, timed and launched with one eye (or both eyes) on the electoral calendar."

The spokesman's book is called "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception."

Governing via endless campaigning is not a new phenomenon, but it accelerated markedly during the tumultuous Clinton White House and then the war-shaken years of the Bush administration. Bush strategist Karl Rove had a strong hand in both politics and governing as overseer of key offices, including not only openly political affairs and long-range strategic planning but as liaison for intergovernmental affairs, focusing on state and local officials.

Bush's presidency "wandered and remained so far off course by excessively embracing the permanent campaign and its tactics," McClellan writes. He says Bush relied on an aggressive "political propaganda campaign" instead of the truth to sell the Iraq war.

That's about right, says Brookings Institution political analyst Thomas Mann, co-author of a book entitled "The Permanent Campaign."

"It was such a hyped-up effort to frame the problem and the choices in a way that really didn't do justice to the complexity of the arguments, the intelligence," Mann said in an interview. Though all presidents try to "control the message," he said, "it was really a way of preventing that discussion. It just had enormously harmful consequences. I think they carried it to a level not heretofore seen."

Each day, underscoring the daily blend of politics and government, Bush and his administration make an extraordinary effort to control information and make sure the White House message is spread across the government and beyond. The line for officials to follow is set at early-morning senior staff meetings at the White House, then transmitted in e-mails, conference calls, faxes and meetings. The loop extends to Capitol Hill where lawmakers get the administration talking points. So do friendly interest groups and others.

The aim is to get them all to say the same thing, unwavering from the administration line. Other administrations have tried to do the same thing, but none has been as disciplined as the Bush White House.

It starts at the top.

McClellan recounts how Bush, as governor of Texas, spelled out his approach about the press at their very first meeting in 1998. He said Bush "mentioned some of his expectations for his spokespeople — the importance of staying on message; the need to talk about what you're for, rather than what you are against; how he liked to make the big news on his own time frame and terms without his spokespeople getting out in front of him, and, finally, making sure that public statements were coordinated internally so that everyone is always on the same page and there are few surprises."

In September 2002, Bush's chief economic adviser, Larry Lindsey, ran afoul of the president's rules by saying the cost of a possible war with Iraq could be somewhere between $100 billion and $200 billion. Bush was irritated and made sure that Lindsey was told his comments were unacceptable. "Lindsey had violated the first rule of the disciplined, on-message Bush White House: don't make news unless you're authorized to do so," McClellan wrote.

Within four months, Lindsey was gone, resigning as part of a reshaping of Bush's economic team.

While message control has been part of many administrations, Mann said that, "They were just tougher and more disciplined about it than anyone else had been."

As spokesman, McClellan ardently defended Bush's decision to invade Iraq and the conduct of his presidency over the course of nearly 300 briefings in two years and 10 months. Now, two years after leaving the White House and eager to make money on his book, McClellan concludes Bush turned away from candor and honesty and misled the country about the reasons for going to war.

It wasn't about Saddam Hussein's supposed weapons of mass destruction, McClellan writes. It was Bush's fervor to transform the Middle East through the spread of democracy. "The Iraq war was not necessary," writes McClellan, who never hinted at any doubts or questioned his talking points when he was press secretary.

McClellan writes that Bush and his team sold the Iraq war by means of a "political propaganda campaign" in which contradictory evidence was ignored or discarded, caveats or qualifications to arguments were downplayed or dropped and "a dubious al-Qaida connection to Iraq was played up.

"We were more focused on creating a sense of gravity and urgency about the threat from Saddam Hussein than governing on the basis of the truths of the situation," McClellan wrote.

McClellan is not the first presidential spokesman to write a tell-all book, but his is certainly the harshest, at least in recent memory. He says his words as press secretary were sincere but he has come to realize that "some of them were badly misguided. ... I've tried to come to grips with some of the truths that life inside the White House bubble obscured."

White House colleagues were stunned, but not lacking for the day's response. "We are puzzled. It is sad. This is not the Scott we knew," said Dana Perino, the current press secretary who was first hired by McClellan as a deputy.

Later in the day, she relayed the reaction of Bush himself: "He's puzzled, he doesn't recognize this as the Scott McClellan that he hired and confided in and worked with for so many years."


How Can 59 Million People Be So Dumb?

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caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 4:34 AM

STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday rejected allegations from a former White House spokesman who says the Bush administration misled the American public into going to war with Iraq.


Rice would not comment specifically on charges made by ex-press secretary Scott McClellan in a new book, but said President Bush was honest and forthright about the reasons for the war. She also said she remained convinced that toppling Saddam Hussein was right and necessary.
WHY WOULD CONDOLEEZA RICE COMPROMISE HER` OWN INTEGRITY TO COVER BUSH`S WORTHLESS ASS ?
In doing so, she also displays how she really feels about this country. Of course Bush put her in a position of prominence but her` love of country should come first, which it obviously doesn`t. YOU DON`T BACK UP LIES WITH MORE LIES !

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 5:33 AM

Conservative Republicans don't care about all of the people who's lives have been ended or ruined because of the policies of the Bush Administration.

In Iraq.
In New Orleans
In the Banking and Home Loan industry
In the Credit Industry.

So many lives have been ruined by these Conservative policies and everyone is finally waking up to the truth about the Republican party and what it is doing to America.

Its time for some CHANGE in Washington!

HybridTalk read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 6:44 AM

How can so many people be so dumb?

Well, look how many dumb people have believed in man made global warming?

Talk about dumb...(SHEESH)

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 8:21 AM

Hybrid - Those people who believe in global warming haven`t found themselves underwater - yet.
Those who voted for "Dubya" just found themselves under a mountain of BS. You reap what you sow !

polarbear_88 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 11:40 AM

haha!! His own damn people are turning on him!! They've been heading for the life boats for years under this evil tyrant's rule. I hope Bush faces well deserved criminal charges. People coming out from everywhere to testify against him. Like the Seinfeld finale!!

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 29, 2008 | 3:51 PM

He sure as hell has a lot to answer for. I`ve been watching defections, resignations, from people who`s conscience could no longer let them deceive their` fellow countrymen. At last ! The truth triumphs over deception and lies !

gorbash81 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 5:37 AM

I think it is likely that at least some of the Bush administration flunkies (and they definitely flunked) are going to face some type of prosecution, likely warcrimes for Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, among other things.

BillinKent read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 1:44 PM

If you hold Bush accountable for the mess that this country is in, then you would have to hold Bernie accountable for all the things that happened in the movie, "Weekend at Bernie's". Bush was never in charge. The decisions were made by those around him. Dead from the neck up is still dead when it comes to making decisions.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 3:30 PM

Aaaah, Bill, Those around him were a hand picked band of idiots. They were put in these positions by "Dubya" to reward them for being loyal, even though 90% of them had NO qualifications for the jobs. So YES, I do hold him accountable.

mommiegrandma read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 9:35 PM

As far as Condi Rice goes, I recall right after we went to war with iraq I saw her on I think it was Meet the Press. I noticed how glassy her eyes were and how droopy her eyelids were. I recall thinking she must be on some powerful nerve pills. Eash time she made a public appearance she looked like that over several months.

I am willing to bet she has a story to tell, but she will be too cowardly to come forth.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 30, 2008 | 9:54 PM

Mommiegrandma - You are usually right. It may take a little more time to come out, being that she is holding the highest office ever held by a black woman in our` history. But I still believe that love of country and her` fellow Americans will prevail and she will come clean. Colin Powell resigned from his` position because he, in good conscience, could not continue to be a part of the deception.

mommiegrandma read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 12:05 AM

Casey, I saw a Meet the Press Interview with Colin Powell, and I am willing to bet he is going to support Obama. He said in the interview that he has met with Obama several times, and when asked who he is supporting he would not say, and he would not say that he is supporting the Republican ticket. He also said he would be willing to go back to work in the Government.

I thought that was interesting.

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 1:32 AM

Yes, that is very interesting. He has seen first hand how an American president can lie and manipulate our government to the point of almost becoming a dictator. I don`t think he would back another from the same cloth.

dprin339 read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 6:31 AM

medea, is it possible that Colin Powell thinks that his intentions are none of anyone's business? he is a private citizen now......

you are assuming that he has "jumped ship" without any proof or even anything remotely close to the truth...........

let me guess, you actually got this [...] from ariannahuffinton.............the loser who can't make it in the REAL world of journalism. LMAO your version of reality is really stunningly laughable............and sad that you once again try to USE Mr Powell for your pathetic fairy tales. you are once again disrespecting an incredible man with your [...].

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 8:05 AM

Yes, he is an incredible man. He left the position as the president`s "right hand" man because he believed what was taking place was wrong. Can you offer any other REASONABLE explanation ? Colin Powell`s heart is in the right place. Otherwise he would have remained a part of the "web of deception".

Who in the world is medea ?

girlscout read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 8:40 AM

Medea is the character created by Tyler Perry that is mommiegrandma's avatar.
And why is it that the conservatives want us to believe all their right-wing journalists have to say, but then they say all the left-wing journalists are full of BS?! Inquiring minds want to know....

tem123 read my blog
May 31, 2008 | 9:21 AM

Hmmm...the stuff that the former press secretary of the Bush Administration is saying could be changed around to look at the permanent campaign since mid-November 1994 when the Democrats lost control of Congress for the first time in a generation. The liberals have almost got their power back. However, the difference between the liberal media and the new conservative media is really simple. Liberals feel that they know what they want you to know, while conservatives want you to think for yourselves by looking at a situation with a different approach. By the way...there are things that are hidden by ANY administration. What is former President Clinton still hiding in his papers?

caseyjones38 read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 10:08 AM

"Liberals feel that they know what they want you to know, while conservatives want you to think for yourselves by looking at a situation with a different approach."

tem - Step back and take a look. You have this backwards. Don`t tell me that conservatives think for themselves. They have let "Dubya" do their` thinking for 7 1/2 years now. Never questioning even when the results were unsavory. The much needed questions come from liberals who recognize that "Something is rotten in Denmark !" Now, the answers are starting to come forth.

girlscout read my blog view my photos
May 31, 2008 | 10:18 AM

Well, tem, that's only your opinion - not the absolute truth. There is probably embellishment going on on both sides of the left and right media, and we would be wise to take them all with a grain of salt.

tem123 read my blog
May 31, 2008 | 5:56 PM

The liberals are asking the much needed questions Casey? I really think that the conservatives are more in finding out the truth but that's just my opinion not the absolute truth...right girlscout? Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but there is no absolute truth, just more questions that go unanswered.

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I am 69 yrs. old and I have never seen our country in such dire straits as it is today. I was born in W.Va., Grew up in Pa. with Bobby Vinton, and ended up in Oh. Back then, when you graduated from high school in W.Va.,Pa.,or Ky., you received a diploma and a road map to Ohio. I grew up in the 50`s and 60`s, so I know what really good times in our` country were. GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN !

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