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What in the world is going on here? I wrote in a previous post about a religious litmus test and so here we go again. Obama is now trying to distance himself from the church he has been actively attending because of the incendiary remarks of the pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. OK, no one is suggesting that what this pastor has said or is saying is not troubling, it is, but to somehow connect Obama to Wright's rants seems absurd. Yeah, perhaps Obama should have exercised better judgment and realized early on, that the pastor's words might hurt his presidential candidacy. And maybe Wright should not have been included as a "spiritual adviser" in Obama's campaign. So my point, whether a man chooses to attend The Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Salt Lake City, religion should not be used as an issue in choosing a president! All religion is personal and how a person chooses to worship is his own business. It is not up to others to judge what is a good religion or bad religion or whether a man of a certain faith is fit to serve as President of the United States. It seems to me that one must look a the complete candidate and yes, that might mean a peek at his religious beliefs so far as it goes to the issue of character, but that should be it. Obama has the right to attend whatever church he wants even if the, now retired pastor, said some real crazy things. I suspect Obama is no more a puppet of the Rev. Wright than Mitt Romney is of the Mormon Elders.
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voodoodog read my blog view my photos
Mar 17, 2008 | 5:01 PM

I agree that religion should be the last and least important aspect of a candidate. More wars have been started and more blood has been shed in the name of "Religion" than all other reasons combined.

TRUTHGUYSinLA read my blog view my photos
Mar 17, 2008 | 7:48 PM

WHile I agree that Obama doesnt have the same views of the loon Rev Wright, I have a problem with his selection of Friends that might translate into his advisors and friends if in the Whitehouss.

IE: Wright, Rezko, William Ayers the radical bomber,etc.

The difference between Romneys Mormon faith (which I bleive is a False Religion and loaded with problems in opposition to the Bible) is that Mormons dont hate America and are Marzists like Wright it. Actually I think Wright is a Communist. He assisted the Sandanestas in Central America , assisted Libyian leader Kadafi through Farahkan, and enabled most enemies of the US.

Wright is a pastor who has no clue about the Word. He cant grasp Forgiveness, and hates whitey from things that happened 40 years ago.

Religion shouldn be a consideration... but who your friends are should be. Obama is loaded with really bad people.

SocalSurfer
Mar 17, 2008 | 8:42 PM

Carlos, I think your missing the point. Perception IS reality and you are who you associate with. It's a fact no one can get away with. Hey, Even Oprah went to that Church "once" and never came back because of that Pastors racist rhetoric. You have to ask yourself. Why did it take Oprah one speach from him for her to see that this guy a racist and Obama spent 20 years taking in his racist rants and only now that Obama's cult of Personality is finally being investigated is he backing away from this pastor. Let's face it. Lots of people hated Bush's friends and advisors. But, now we see something alot worse than rich oil guys and the media (including you) are saying Never mind the man behind the green curtain. You need to open your eyes and the rest of the media need to stop being so star struck and start doing their jobs and investigate Obama. Like his 2002 1 million dollar earmark for that hospital in Chicago that his wife worked for and how how salery when from $100K/yr to $314K/yr (chicago tribune). THere's a very good reason why Obama doesnt want anyone to investigae his earmarks prior to 2005. Carlos, go do some investigative reporting on those earmarks. It will open your eyes and it will wipe that new car smell of Obama. Change,yeah, change my ass............Same old sleasy fast talking politician. Just covered in a new wrapper.

craftyguy read my blog
Mar 17, 2008 | 9:29 PM

lets see his paster is a black militant,his wife is only proud to be an American for the first time in her life,he refuses to wear the American flag on his lapel,and wont put his hand over his heart during the national anthem..had to be cornered by Clinton to renounce Louis Farrakhan..oh yeah this guy is the second coming alright....of Castro!

Jay_Kumar read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 1:36 AM

"...He's a Muslim. He was sworn into office on the Koran. He doesn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. His pastor is an anti-Semite. He's a tool of Louis Farrakhan. He's anti-Israel. His advisers are anti-Israel. He's friends with terrorists. The terrorists want him to win. He's the Antichrist.

By now you've probably seen at least some of these e-mails and articles about Barack Obama bouncing around the Internet. They distort Obama's religious faith, question his support for Israel, warp the identity and positions of his campaign advisers and defame his friends and allies from Chicago. The purpose of the smear is to paint him as an Arab-loving, Israel-hating, terrorist-coddling, radical black nationalist. That picture couldn't be further from the truth, but you'd be surprised how many people have fallen for it. The American Jewish community, one of the most important pillars of the Democratic Party and US politics, has been specifically targeted [see Eric Alterman's column in the March 24 issue, "(Some) Jews Against Obama"]. What started as a largely overlooked fringe attack has been thrust into the mainstream -- used as GOP talking points, pushed by the Clinton campaign, echoed by the likes of Meet the Press host Tim Russert. Falsehoods are repeated as fact, and bits of evidence become "elaborate constructions of malicious fantasy," as the Jewish Week, America's largest Jewish newspaper, editorialized."

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/79627/

Isaac_Seymour view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 3:25 AM

hi chuck, i don't intend to insult you 'cause i dig your act but could you please be more sincere with your idle chit-chat? i don't care if the story is great in your opinion, i want to know how you really feel... for example...i'd like to see you turn to Christine or whomever is next to you and say "what a jerk that guy is" or "can you believe that guy is a teacher?" the problem as i view is saying "i like sushi"... the comment is boring. listen carefully to mark thompson and to rick garcia... those guys are real men. please do not feel a need to be borning like ch 2,4,7. you are there to entertian your viewing audience while giving us the boring news of the day. step up young man!

dimitrilw1 read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 3:49 AM

HOPE TO SEE YOU AT WESTLAKE WHEN FOOTBALL SEASON KICKS OFF. SEE IF YOU CAN DRAG BILL HANDEL TO SOME OF THE GAMES. LOL

I MAY HAVE TO GIVE JIM ANOTHER PEP TALK BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS SO THE TEAM CAN GET OUT THERE AND KICK AZZ WITH ALL THEIR HEART!!! (smile)

newsislame
Mar 18, 2008 | 2:20 PM

give me a break. no one picks a "spiritual advisor" who does not share their views and beliefs. hussein obama is just another politician who will say anything and deny anything to get elected. the fact is he has a muslim father and his middle name is hussein. he and his supporters always cry foul when you use his middle name, but it's just a simple statement of fact. his name is hussein. america needs to decide if we really want to have a president named hussein.

Jay_Kumar read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 3:19 PM

NEWSISLAME: Call anyone by any name you wish, but what is your point? So what if Barack Obama's middle name is "Hussein." What does that matter?

My point is - WHAT IS YOUR POINT? Are you implying because of his middle name he's unfit to be President?

Is that how you this we should decide our votes in America, we being the paragon of democracy? Well, that's your prerogative. But I suggest you take a more thoughtful approach to these important issues.

Attempting to defame Obama by bringing up his middle name says more about you, than it does about him.

And if you want to change the subject from what Carlos is saying, and discuss the name Hussein and middle names, then lets do it. Hussein is an Arabic name that means "good; small handsome one". President Bush's middle name is "Walker" - refers to a person in Old England who walked on damp raw cloth in order to thicken it.


Obama was right about this War in 2002 - where did you stand?

newsislame
Mar 18, 2008 | 3:45 PM

well, let's see. the last president hussein the world had to deal with was a ruthless mass murderer whose victims are still being uncovered to this day. he was responsible for a brutal war with iran that killed hundreds of thousands. i'm not saying hussein obama is a ruthless mass murderer, i am saying someone named hussein should not be our president.

WordWise read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 4:11 PM

Let's separate these issues into their correct classifications.

It's not a question of religion, but of racist rhetoric.

Obama states he is a Christian. That's religion.

Here's the racist rhetoric and the difference between the democratic candidates. While Ferraro was SUPPORTER OF CLINTON, whose words and philosophy caused the candidate to distance herself from her, OBAMA SUPPORTED a PHILOSOPHICAL leader who espoused hatefulness and divisiveness.

One cannot control what one's followers and supporters do and say, but one controls one's decision to follow another. The follower makes a determination, the leader attempts to sway its followers.

Obama followed the preacher, year after year, and now POLITICALLY shields himself from THAT CHOICE. It's not his religion I question, it's his judgment.

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SocalSurfer
Mar 18, 2008 | 5:03 PM

WordWise,Well said,,,,,,,,,,,,It's either the Wrong judgement, or the total lack of judgement that Obama is guilty of. Both can be deadly to the USA populace if he is elected.

statueman read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 5:14 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTED a PHILOSOPHICAL leader who espoused hatefulness and divisiveness.

-WordWise

Well OK Pastor Wright is a hateful murderer whose church is hateful and vicious and mean and cruel. It's not that these folks face the reality of mid-west racist institutions with SOP's dating back to the 50's. It's not that the members in this church contended all their lives with power-bases of rich families and fire departments and police departments and judges and lawyers who ran them down with rhetoric and double reverse racism and quaint little cliche' arguements of the most redundant kind.

I'm so sorry that when we vent it doesn't sound like the non-racist and hateful way like when more reasonable patriots vent... however like the teacher said "Oppression maketh the wise man mad."

statueman read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 5:21 PM

Please wake up and smell the stench of your own self justification. When reasonable black folks speak you dismiss it out of hand and don't believe that the ovens are burning. When hateful black men speak you go running to the reasonable black men and ask them why they aren't denouncing them.

Is it any wonder that along side all this mess the right to keep and bear arms is coming to the floor?

I suggest you pick Obama so that Reverend Wright has a good reason to repent. Sorry folks but I hear the apathetic rantings of reasonable sounding dinner table rhetoric. While the 4th generation ghetto children form alliances that hateful preachers like Rev Wright succeed in saving them from and you folks thoughtlessly push them back too.

WordWise read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 6:35 PM

statueman:
Huh?

You seem to be reading in more than I wrote, yet less than I meant. Why are you calling the Rev a murderer? You lump gun control into this topic? Those are oddly emotional overstatements of the issue.

What do you know of oppression? When were YOU oppressed and what have you done to right such oppression? Give me your personal perspective so I may understand.

Do you recall what Obama said in his speech, today? Paraphrasing, he said that white men need to understand the oppression that the black community feels and that the black community needs to stop hating for misdeeds from the past. I agree with the speech. White people, in general, have no idea and many black people hold a grudge.

My point is that Obama CHOSE this man, twenty years ago, as his spiritual leader and now stands against the man's words, which are offensive, to a nation, which is now considering electing him as president. Even he claims to be offended. To me, that's a judgment flaw.

I am awake and I read the words of others. I claim NO superiority to anyone. I am a student of all. Nonetheless, my opinion is legitimate despite your dislike of it. Accusatory, belittling, and ridiculous banter will not change my opinion. Only real communications and enlightened discussion can do that.

statueman read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 6:48 PM

Overstatement to combat understatement... a common thing amoungst those or the underclass for those of the upper.

Why am I being emotional? Why not? I'm simply livid at these slight of hand card trick denouncements of one of the most level headed hafe breeds to hit the hit parade since The Rock came to the World Wrestling Federation.

Oh I should mention I'm a light skinned african euro native American with a high yellow to mocha brown family of mostly Catholic Democrats. I converted to radical republicanism but shhhhhh don't tell anyone. I think the Democratic Party hood winked minorities with Roevywade and the wrong kind of free clinics. Anywhoo

Senator Obama said the man led him to Christ. Said the man showed him a caring ministry that helped the inner city... I've got 5 pastors in my life and one thing they all have in common... none of them are perfect and they all have some kind of highly opinionated veiws that I think are as dumb and stubbornly stated as veiwpoints can be.

SocalSurfer
Mar 18, 2008 | 7:39 PM

I was laughing when Obama said, and im paraphrasing here," Im sure we all have had pasters that voice their opinions in sermons that we completely disagree with". I gotta say, Ive never been to church where the paster said something more controvercial than love your fellow man, family and that god loves you. Maybe its because im Lutheran and we tend to be a mellow group. But, I just had to laugh atthat statement. I guess he thinks. All americans are angry people that think churchs are places of hate speech. I don't take part in that kind of generalizing.

statueman read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 7:53 PM

Here you go SocalSurfer

"Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely – just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed."

Please note the word 'some not like your false paraphase of 'all'. It's called selective hearing... or projecting the errors in our thinking on the next guy. Incidently, Martin Luther was anything but a "mellow" guy.

"For still our ancient foe
doth seek to work us woe
his craft and power are great
and armed with cruel hate
on earth none is his equal"
- A Mighty Fortress is Our God by Martin Luther

I doubt your church founder would have laughed at anything spoken today in a history making speech.

statueman read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 8:07 PM

Hate speech Hate speech

oh heck you folks just hate speeches where you have to stay focused on the context of what a man is saying. Pick out a line change a word or two and wahlah isssa racial izzu!!!

Call it 'hate' cause you hate it when a person preaches about the injustices he hates.

Double reverse racism with a catch phrase of 'Hate Speech' for affirmation in the mutual admiration society of the new persecuted minority of the why is everybody blaming poor old white me.

craftyguy read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 10:14 PM

great speech he couldn't have done better if he was Bill Clinton talking about Monica Lewinsky...

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carlos_amezcua

With more than 30 years in television news Carlos Amezcua has covered stories around the globe. He's been honored with many awards including 7 Emmys. His career has included assignments for CBS News, NBC News, CNN and Fox News. For 16 years Carlos was the principal news anchor on the award wining KTLA Morning News. In September of 2007 Carlos joined the number one Fox11 Ten O'clock News as Co-anchor with Christine Devine. ALTERNATIVE BIO Dude grew up on the shores of San Diego longboarding, crusin' the streets in my '66 VW and playing soccer. I played guitar in my dad's mariachi band for like ten years and saved enough money to go to college. I got straight A's in English 'cause I had to learn it as a second language. I started broadcasting on my college radio station reading news in the morning. I took a break for two years to be a missionary for my church in Guatemala and El Salvador, two beautiful countries. When I returned I surfed, played soccer, played guitar in a rock band, waited tables and went back to college radio. Along my rambling trail I met a real cute girl and married her. I moved to television reporting and had a bunch of kids by the time I was thirty. Still surfing, still playing guitar but now clearly a devoted husband and father. Dude, I even got to do a story for Walter Cronkite! I was gone alot from my family in those early years but Mary was my rock and held down the fort. Don't worry we had lots of quality family time! Somewhere in the haze that is my memory, my kids grew up to be pretty amazing. I landed at KTLA and spent 16 wonderful years there. In September of last year I parked my VW, surfboard and guitar at Fox11 and dude, I am loving life!

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