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First there was the controversy over  the Black Hole commen, and now the use of the word "dark"

 definition from  merriam-webster

a: arising from or showing evil traits or desires : evil <the dark powers that lead to war>

b: dismal , gloomy <had a dark view of the future> c: lacking knowledge or culture : unenlightened <a dark period in history> d: relating to grim or depressing circumstances<dark humor> 

 a: not clear to the understanding

b: not known or explored because of remoteness <the darkest reaches of the continent>

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Vague allegations of racism in and around Dallas City Hall have turned into very pointed personal attacks questioning the racial intent of individuals.

The controversy swirls around one four-letter word used by a planning commissioner during the debate over whether to rename Ross Avenue for Cesar Chavez.

Last week, city planning commissioner Neil Emmons said, "I, speaking only for myself, believe there are dark racist forces in this building."

On Wednesday, a Dallas resident who addressed the council said something similar: "I am here to ask this city council to help us dissipate this dark cloud of racism."

The use of the word "dark" twice in one week was too much for Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Dwaine Caraway.

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muddywaterP read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 6:55 PM

What a effin joke with that said dallas city counsel is the biggest joke there is,they need to get off this racial chit it is way old and black's need to suck it up and quit being so thin skinned.Just Sayin :)

scottythecomic read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 7:21 PM

Dallas is out of control. All I know is that there is more racisnm in this city than any I have ever lived in. Our city council is a disgrace as is our school system administrators.

Cogent
Oct 1, 2008 | 7:44 PM

I am sorry that many are so apt to take personal affront to the use of a neutral common term. It makes me wonder what they may have experienced in the past to make them so suspicious of others. The term dark or darkness as it was used has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin but refers to the absence of light, a biblical concept. Recall the biblical exhortation to walk in light as children of the day and not in deeds of darkness. The idea is that darkness hides your deeds and does not refer to your skin. Recall also the reference in Ephesians 6 forces of darkness aludes to spiritual forces of wickedness. If these terms are biblical, can there be any impunity placed on those who use such terms in similar ways?

dmhl view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 7:50 PM

I think that the whole thing is a bunch of BS. Thats whats wrong with the world today is racism and grown [...] people acting they shoe size. We are suppose to be worried about the economy and polotics. Leave the damn name of the street the way that it is. Everybody needs to be EQUAL. WHAT PEOPLE ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE PEOPLE WITH DARK TANS OR BLACK PEOPLE.??

PACKERBACKER read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2008 | 8:07 PM

What really sucks is that you can't even say the word BLACK any more because some wuss yells out, "RACISTS!!!"


You're right, worry about other things such as the economy and leave that other stuff alone.

Mirandaguad
Oct 1, 2008 | 11:07 PM

I know that I am getting so tired of the whole I am black and because you even said the word black you are a racists.. I am white and my husband is Hispanic and I have people treat me differently because I am white. Black people are not the only ones that have issues with racism. Get over it!!! Slavery has been gone for a long time. Stop making excuses to be sensitive.

DeepSouthSide
Oct 2, 2008 | 4:09 AM

I can not think of a remark that demonstrates more racism and racial intollerance than what Mr Caraway said. 'You have to be black to understand'. On one hand we need to forget color and be a big happy family. On the other we need to remember Black is different and if you are not black you will never understand. On that same thought...what gives Mr Caraway such great insight to how white peole think. Obviously he is not white so how could he understand? Or is he saying white folks are simplistic, uneducated, dolts and therefore easily understood by other races around the world. Also, why is he black again...I thought it was African American.

Irvingite
Oct 2, 2008 | 6:38 AM

Mr. Caraway you are the racist. Just what did you mean "my planning commissioner" I thought he was all of Dallas' planning commissioner. Here are a few words for you Mr. Caraway dark dark dark dark dark black black black. Black people have turned into such Nazis.

Ironman read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:26 AM

ALL RIGHT. The words "DARK,and BLACK are to be replaced by Opaque. I have never seen such idiocy in my life.

jerr read my blog
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:33 AM

Major problem with the politicians of Dallas, always worrying about who is a racist, a bigot and who is not politically correct.

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:42 AM

You know when I took sociology in college (what a waste) they tried to tell us that words like "dark" were racist because they made black people feel like they were seen as evil. I thought it was the biggest bunch of poo I'd ever heard - but apparently people buy into it.

I think it is just an excuse to demand that an entire language should change rather than learning to live in a world that is more receptive to people of all cultures than ever before.

Sorry to disappoint you dude, but I don't care what color you are, I care about WHO you are.

lazylady read my blog
Oct 2, 2008 | 9:36 AM

Some one should tell that City Counselman he was elected to take care of city business not whine and spend so much time worring about his feelings. I don't like being old,fat, and not so cute any more but hey that me. So he is black and dark lots of people are if he is honest and hardworking he could hold his head up high and take pride in who he is.

Being_Neighborly
Oct 2, 2008 | 9:44 AM

Being black, I hate when black people jump on the "racist wagon". Yes, there is racism in the world, but don't pull the "racist card" behind everything someone says if their not black. It's not always meant negatively, so stop looking for the negative stuff. Stop twisting people's words to make a racist case! "It doesn't matter what color you are, as long as your blood is red".

smokebrown
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:08 AM

After reading all of the following comments, it was easy to assess that (from MuddywaterP to Irvingite) all or most of you guys are not African American and probably have no interest in understanding African American culture. It is utterly amazing to me that, from your own comments, we are being called Nazis and that we should "get over the fact that slavery is over". I wonder if any one of you would say the same thing to someone who was Jewish about the fact that the holocoaust was over with and they needed to "get over it". It's amazing to me how caucasians will do anything to keep from being viewed as being an anti-semite but have no problem displaying their prejudice disgust towards African Americans. By the way, before anyone of you try to make and argument that the holocaust has nothing to do with or is remotely similar to what African Americans have endured since slavery, then I suggest you camp out at your local library this weekend and do some serious research (black voting rights denied, random lenchings & hangings, little rock nine, civil rights act of 1964) so that you can understand a different ethnic culture other than your own. The only difference is that the holocaust was done in Germany (1939-1945) so it is easy to point the finger at another nation; but you forget that as you are pointing the finger at Germany, there are three disclosed fingers on that same hand pointing back at what America was doing to it's own citizens of color during, before, and after that same time. Also, before anyone decides to label me as being anti-semetic, let me inform you that

smokebrown
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:10 AM

let me inform you that my Lord and Savior was born of the Jews. Let me explain what Mr. Caraway meant when he said that "you have to be black to understand" and why one of the Dallas County Commissioners was offended about the "black hole" comment so that you will be able to see it from our perspcetive. If any of you remember studying French, Spanish, or any other foreign language in high school or college, you should remember that those languages (as well as others) use grammatical genders (noun classes) in which they distinguish between masculine and feminine gender. Modern English, however, is normally described as lacking grammatical gender; but instead, uses grammatical "race" in order to reflect the behavior of associated words. Think about it, when we use the word "white lie", we view it as being a harmless. The same goes when words such as "white knight", "great white hope" (in the case of boxing champ Jack Johnson in 1909), and a "white dwarf" (astronomy). Those words, when used in everyday dialect, are perceived as either something good or not so significant. Now on the other side of that same spectrum, the word "black" is used and perceived in total contrast from its counterpart in the English language here in America. For example, a "black hole", the "black sheep" of the family, "black magic", "blackball", "blacklist", "blackmail", and the "black plague".

smokebrown
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:12 AM

The irony of all this is that, in today's, we are so quick to use words that we have no true comprehension as to what they really mean. If you look up the word "racism" in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, you see its true definition: (Racism - a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and those racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.) Now let's look at the word, prejudice: (Prejudice - a (1): preconceived judgment or opinion. (2): an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. b: an instance of such judgment or opinion. c: an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.) The reason for displaying these two definitions is so that we can distinguish and understand the two words and us it in their proper context. Think about it, how can an African American be a "racist" in America when African Americans, throughout American history and with the constitution, have had to fight for equality up until now because our white counterparts were the "dominant majority" and we are considered "the minority". To give you an example, the reason why Black History Month is so important to us is because history books left out the significant contributions of black Americans and some never tell the whole story. Just like EVERYONE believes that Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, but it was REALLY a black scientist named Lewis Latimer who invented the carbon filament in the bulb and the threaded wooden socket t

smokebrown
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:13 AM

Just like EVERYONE believes that Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, but it was REALLY a black scientist named Lewis Latimer who invented the carbon filament in the bulb and the threaded wooden socket to screw in the bulb. However, mainstream history does not give Lewis Latimer any credit for that or for when he helped Alexander Graham Bell patent the telephone. On the other hand, someone who is prejudice can be of ANY race and, unfortunately, it is still prevalent even in the 21st Century (which truly sad). Now on this issue, I'm in full agreement that there are just as many prejudicial blacks as there are prejudicial whites. The problem, however, is not about race or color, IT IS ABOUT CULTURE. The only way that we can even begin to extinguish the destructive mindset of "prejudice", is to be willing to accept one another and educate ourselves of other cultures, other than our own, here in the USA. By the way, yes I am an African American and a PROUD veteran of the United States Air Force.

2tickets2paradise read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:32 AM

There will always be people sitting around picking out words that are considered "racist", these are the same sorts of people who show up at a car accident and declare the white car at fault if it is a black and a white car accident. Unless someone just comes out and out and out calls a person a racial slur... they need to stop trying to make every word in the vocabulary on offensive word. These sorts of people are only interested in one thing and that is showboating (oh can I say that?) they aren't interested in the business at hand, had they been paying more attention to the business vs. picking words- something productive may of been done.... BUT productivity isn't their main objective.

babysister138 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:34 AM

I am thinking that we should just delete the words assciated with biased color from the english language.
So when you order white or dark meat make sure you order breasts or thighs...oops, can't do that, you might upset a female taking the order.
How would anyone suggest we fix the words such as dark and black? We have been using these words in the english language for how long?

TexanInfidel read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2008 | 10:50 AM

The problem, smokebrown, is that no one sees anything wrong with making white people twitchy - worried that we will say the wrong word. No one sees anything wrong with preaching "social gospel" as if it has any place in the Bible. No one sees anything wrong with the black nationalist movement. It is a double standard.

No sane person in my generation has discriminated based on race. No sane person in my generation would immediately discount a person due to something as shallow as their color. Yet we have people who make all white people out to be closet racists. It is annoying. It is ignorant. It is unfair to those of us who live our lives treating everyone fairly.

I know history. I know that my Irish family came over here as indentured servants (slaves who could become free by working off their debt). I know that people wouldn't hire the Irish. I know that the Chinese were enslaved and forced to work on the railroad. I know that women were denied the right to vote. I know that 9 times out of 10 when you hear someone crying "racist" unjustly, it is coming from an African American.

Come to 2008, the water's fine.

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I am considered a Senior, by A.A.R.P. Have traveled all over this country and lots of Europe. Raised 4 kids with no help from the Gov't. Love dogs and cats and horses, and all creatures, great and small I try to be nice to A/all Lived through the 50's and 60's, and survived. Give me a good book, and quiet music, and I am happy. mmeshell2@tx.rr.com

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