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One of the main planks of the DNC platform is "free" healthcare. But there is no guarantee  that the cost will be low or that everyone will be covered in a TIMELY manner. In fact, the inclusion of undocumented workers-a key issue to persuade Hispanic voters-will drive up the cost beyond what many of us are paying now for company offered care. The Canadian system is held up as the shining example of single payer care, but  below are some serious concerns regarding Canada's system by the man who designed it. As for "free"healthcare-you get what you pay for.

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"But no one will mention Claude Castonguay — perhaps not surprising because this statesman isn't an American and hasn't held office in over three decades.

Castonguay's evolving view of Canadian health care, however, should weigh heavily on how the candidates think about the issue in this country.

Back in the 1960s, Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec — then the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.

The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast.

Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."

"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice."

Castonguay advocates contracting out services to the private sector, going so far as suggesting that public hospitals rent space during off-hours to entrepreneurial doctors. He supports co-pays for patients who want to see physicians. Castonguay, the man who championed public health insurance in Canada, now urges for the legalization of private health insurance.

In America, these ideas may not sound shocking. But in Canada, where the private sector has been shunned for decades, these are extraordinary views, especially coming from Castonguay. It's as if John Maynard Keynes, resting on his British death bed in 1946, had declared that his faith in government interventionism was misplaced.

What would drive a man like Castonguay to reconsider his long-held beliefs? Try a health care system so overburdened that hundreds of thousands in need of medical attention wait for care, any care; a system where people in towns like Norwalk, Ontario, participate in lotteries to win appointments with the local family doctor.

Years ago, Canadians touted their health care system as the best in the world; today, Canadian health care stands in ruinous shape.

Sick with ovarian cancer, Sylvia de Vires, an Ontario woman afflicted with a 13-inch, fluid-filled tumor weighing 40 pounds, was unable to get timely care in Canada. She crossed the American border to Pontiac, Mich., where a surgeon removed the tumor, estimating she could not have lived longer than a few weeks more.

The Canadian government pays for U.S. medical care in some circumstances, but it declined to do so in de Vires' case for a bureaucratically perfect, but inhumane, reason: She hadn't properly filled out a form. At death's door, de Vires should have done her paperwork better.

De Vires is far from unusual in seeking medical treatment in the U.S. Even Canadian government officials send patients across the border, increasingly looking to American medicine to deal with their overload of patients and chronic shortage of care.

Since the spring of 2006, Ontario's government has sent at least 164 patients to New York and Michigan for neurosurgery emergencies — defined by the Globe and Mail newspaper as "broken necks, burst aneurysms and other types of bleeding in or around the brain." Other provinces have followed Ontario's example.

Canada isn't the only country facing a government health care crisis. Britain's system, once the postwar inspiration for many Western countries, is similarly plagued. Both countries trail the U.S. in five-year cancer survival rates, transplantation outcomes and other measures.

The problem is that government bureaucrats simply can't centrally plan their way to better health care.

A typical example: The Ministry of Health declared that British patients should get ER care within four hours. The result? At some hospitals, seriously ill patients are kept in ambulances for hours so as not to run afoul of the regulation; at other hospitals, patients are admitted to inappropriate wards.(so folks, try not to panic with that appendix or gall bladder or heart......)

Declarations can't solve staffing shortages and the other rationing of care that occurs in government-run systems.

Polls show Americans are desperately unhappy with their system and a government solution grows in popularity. Neither Sen. Obama nor Sen. McCain is explicitly pushing for single-payer health care, as the Canadian system is known in America.

"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program," Obama said back in the 1990s. Last year, Obama told the New Yorker that "if you're starting from scratch, then a single-payer system probably makes sense."

As for the Republicans, simply criticizing Democratic health care proposals will not suffice — it's not 1994 anymore. And, while McCain's health care proposals hold promise of putting families in charge of their health care and perhaps even taming costs, McCain, at least so far, doesn't seem terribly interested in discussing health care on the campaign trail.

However the candidates choose to proceed, Americans should know that one of the founding fathers of Canada's government-run health care system has turned against his own creation. If Claude Castonguay is abandoning ship, why should Americans bother climbing on board?"

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illusionsssss read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 5:39 PM

To me, FREE HEALTHCARE is what the illegals get, and we don't.

ChatterBug read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 6:35 PM

free healthcare....illusions, i agree with you. i have read alot about Canada's screwed up healthcare system. the less involved the government is the better i think.
i truly hope people get educated on the actual system involved. don't just the romance of free healthcare. the idea is nice, but reality of it isn't from what i have read. less government involvement the better imo.

Marks read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 6:53 PM

If the government performed their job better, like letting the free market do what it does so well, healthcare would not be a "crisis" (as Obama would love for you to think). After so many years of micro-regulation we have a system that is stymied. For each new innovation there are a myriad of regulations that must be overcome. Just how much does regulation play a part (much like malpractice insurance) in costs?

Can't wait for healthcare to be "free"...

BTW, When I was in Montreal last month, those folks I worked with all had supplemental private plans. Not only are they paying taxes through the nose, they need a private plan in order to ensure they get treated.

illusionsssss read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 7:48 PM

The "Free Healthcare" system kind of reminds me of when I first arrived in Texas and didn't have a doctor, and KNEW I had strep throat, requiring antibiotics.

I bet I called 10 clinics (who could "get me in" next week, or next month.). Meanwhile, illegal fooktards were going to Parkland ER, NOT getting asked questions or billing info, but getting treatment, BECAUSE they were illegals. (You all know, it's racist to ask if you are legal, have insurance, or can pay)

illusionsssss read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:06 PM

P.S I HAD insurance.

Marks read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:55 PM

Par for the course, Illusions. Funny how those who pay can't even get a doc, while those who have nothing get treated...

acoolone read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 10:25 PM

Free Healthcare is a joke, but hey so is Obama.

Leelila_Strogov read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 11:35 PM

i've lived in countries with socialized medicine, and the bottom line is that you're trading access for quality. more people have greater access to more mediocre care. the great strides of american medicine would likely be unsustainable with a "free" healthcare system. that said, i do think our healthcare system is broken and needs to be fixed. at first doctors were abusing the system, now businesspeople are. we need a middle ground. not sure what that middle ground should look like, but someone has to have an answer.

terrellmom read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 3:25 AM

I called to make an appointment the other day with a dr. i've not seen before...for a first time visit the price ranged from $80.00 to $280.00. It's ridiculous. Maybe that's why so many ppl think socialized medicine would be good.

terrellmom read my blog view my photos
Jun 27, 2008 | 3:26 AM

guess i should clarify...i dont think we need socialized medicine but we do need an affordable alternative for those of us without insurance

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