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by Ms_Vera from St. Louis

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Southwest Airlines is eliminating it's "Families First" policy where families with small children could board first regardless of when they bought their ticket or printed their boarding pass, or arrived at the gate.

I've always thought families should board first, not because I have a child, but because I figure no one else wants to be bothered with my child.

Trust me, families getting on first, I think, is better for all passengers.

When you're carrying an infant, a carseat, and a diaper bag, getting on and getting seteled works better when you aren't reaching over people.

Same goes for people with toddlers. You've got a little kid whose probably going to try and run away and if he's picky like my child, he won't want to sit where you put him. He's going to want to pick his own seat, and for the sake of peace and the other passengers, you better believe that I'm going to let him choose. Trust me, you'll have a better flight that way.

So, I think some people just thought parents were getting preferential treatment but I don't see it that way. When I fly alone and I see a family with two or more kids, I think, good, let them get on and get settled. Because what if they get on the plane, and there are no seats together?

Hopefully, someone nice will get up and help arrange some sort of seating but then you're still bothering passengers.

I like flying Southwest - it's low fare and family friendly. Well, it's still low fare, but apparently, things change.


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jeanette read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:02 AM

I don't fly.I didn't know how they did it.

TheShan2007 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:22 AM

As a former flight attendant I can tell you who's going to take the brunt of this inconvenience: the flight attentants. They're going to be the ones stuck having to rearrange people on the plane to get families together. It's just one more headache and responsibility put off on to someone else. Families are going to insist that they be seated together, as they should, especially with little ones, so it's just going to lead to delays while flight attendants rearrange on board.

TheShan2007 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:24 AM

Jeanette,

SW had a system where they let families with small children get on the plane first. Since they have general seating, this was how they let families with little ones sit together.

Now, they're making them board at the same time as everyone else. So, it's just going to be chaos on board the plane.

jeanette read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:30 AM

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Thanks for the info TheShan2007

LadyCardFan read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:49 AM

Typically, when I've flown SW, there are very few "A" passengers and a few families with small children. I've never noticed that if a family got to the gate late that they were allowed to jump ahead of anyone, but instead waited in line with everyone else. As the majority of passengers (based on my flights taken) have a B boarding pass, I don't see a problem.

Here again, the problem is those who paid a bit more want a bit more, a "We're special" attitude.

My issue is this, have they changed the disabled boarding rules as well? The announcement that used to say families with small children was also when these disabled passengers also boarded.

Dana_H read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 6:08 AM

I agree people with small children should board first. I flew with SW with my sister and her 3 children, we were scattered throughout the plane. The kids were noisy because we were unable to sit with the two girls, they were young, to be able to discipline them. We made it through the trip though. Nerves were taunt. I usually fly alone and I'm happy when parents are with their own children and not sitting next to me.

simple read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 7:53 AM

I agree with SW's new policy. Why are people who fly with kids any more special than those of us who don't fly with kids? If they want to board early than get to the airport early and check in. If they can not control their kids than don't fly with them. Drive.
When our kids were little and we took them somewhere if they misbehaved we left. Period. WE didn't expect everyone else to compenssate us or make special arrangments for our kids. After all they were our kids and ours to deal with.
When my wife and I fly to Florida this summer we would like to board early because I have a heart condition and standing for long lengths of time can bring on angina, plus we want to sit together. So we will get to the airport early and check in early so that we can be one of the first to board.
What's next little old ladies board first because they walk slow and they hold up the line?

beckysoap read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 8:46 AM

i agree with sw new rules. when my friends and i fly, we get to the airport 2 hours early so we can be first in line. some family comes int 10 minutes before boarding and get to go on first and get the first row seats. think goodness sw got with the program. my friends and i would get so mad, why should familes be allowed first.

lbuxx read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 9:20 AM

"When our kids were little and we took them somewhere if they misbehaved we left. Period"

Kinda hard to do on a plane.

Honestly, I would think they should be able to sit together.

This is one of the reasons that I WOULD NOT fly SW if I had small kids. This is what you get when you buy cheaper tickets. Why not buy tickets where you can reserve your seat online or at check in?

simple read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 10:26 AM

lbuxx: Ms_Vera from St. Louis wrote "You've got a little kid whose probably going to try and run away and if he's picky like my child, he won't want to sit where you put him. He's going to want to pick his own seat, and for the sake of peace and the other passengers, you better believe that I'm going to let him choose."
Sounds to me like she knows that her kids are misbehaved, so instead of having everyone else change for her how about she changes and drives. Or better yet teach her kids how to act in public. If her child who wants to pick his own seat picks a seat that is already taken does she expect that passenger to give up their seat because it will be better for everyone? And they will be able to sit together if they get there early and check in early.

When I posted that "When our kids were little and we took them somewhere if they misbehaved we left. Period" I was saying that as parents we knew our kids and how they acted in public. And as such we make our plans to go somewhere accordingly.
And yes we have paid and actually been in places that cost a lot to get in and have left because one of our kids were not behaving. Granted that we were not waiting to board a plane, but that is because we knew our kids and knew that our hyperactive son would have a tough time being still during a long wait in line. Our teaching them how to control themselves and act in public has paid off. Our son is a college grad and doing very well in business and our daughter is in college on her way to the FBI.
Again it is called parenting to be done by the parent.

Ms_Vera read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 10:47 AM

Just to clarify - my child (singular) is not misbehaved. But he is three years old.
There's a difference between misbehaved and excited to be going on a trip. Just a clarification. And I don't know that last time someone refunded a $200+ airline ticket because they were being a stern parent. I'd like to see someone actually leave and get off a plane.
The point is, in a situation where you don't want to inconvenience anyone else, you make it as easy as possible for the children and yourself.
Thanks!

TheShan2007 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 1:43 PM

I wouldn't want my children sitting next to a stranger without me there. But then again, I would NOT fly with small children. And this is coming from a person who lived on airplanes : )

jeepin view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 2:46 PM

my fellings are if you travel and you need special help be it small children or seating needs then get to the airport EARLY....i have knee replacement's which make it hard to fly in cramped seating. i get there very early to get the seat i need. just to have it taken away by someone that get there 20 min before departure. i dont mind getting beat to a good seat if someone gets there before me. however i do mind when it gets taken away by someone who just walked up.....

jana read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 2:55 PM

The family first policy has been in force for years. Maybe its because families are important and having them seated together causes less headaches before and during a long flight.
TheShan2007 I understand how this would make your job easier. You would think anyone who has been on a plane and have children would be very understanding to the importance of this policy.
Wow simple that was a bit harsh don't ya think!
I know Vera personally and she's an amazing mother, so please don't sit here and judge others unless you know what your talking about.

Peace, Jana

LadyCardFan read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 3:52 PM

Okay, what happens when the parent(s) are separated from their children and some pervert touches your child? Then will you scream????

It is assanine to think the parents with kiddos should not gain access to the plain, after the disabled. BTW, if you have a disability (and a doctor's note) the airline personnel must make accommodations for you. So, if you get there early, like I do, and inform them of the problem, they are required to assist you so that you are comfortable.

Also, for those airlines that mandate a larger person purchase 2 seats. Go ahead and purchase 2, then if there is even one open seat request a refund of the 2nd ticket. We did this for an employee going to a conference. Got our money back with no problems at all.

FREEDOMFREE read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:37 PM

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mary_lennox read my blog view my photos
Oct 24, 2007 | 9:31 AM

How 'bout families get there early just like the rest of us. Actually, SW let's you get boarding passes over the internet 24 hours in advance. If you're in the first or second group you'll be able to get seats together.

simple read my blog view my photos
Oct 24, 2007 | 9:37 AM

jana: No I do not think that my comment was harsh. I was replying to Vera's own words that she would let her child pick his own seat inorder to keep him happy. That in my opinoin is the child taking charge rather than the parent.
And like I said before families can sit together, just get to the airport early and check in. My son and his fiancee' fly several times a year on SW and always sit together. My mom and aunt fly a couple times a year and have never had to sit apart. They do this by getting to the airport early and checking in early.

Are you saying that if a family is at the check out line at the store and the kids are misbehaving then the clerk should move them up in line in front of those who have been waiting?
There are many situations where people with and without kids wait in line. What situations would you say does or does not warrent the "families" being moved to the front of the line or taken first?

TheShan2007 read my blog
Oct 24, 2007 | 4:23 PM

Simple,

In the check out line the family is physically together. We're taking about sitting separately on an airplane. Big difference. I understand you need to get there early, but what about in the case of connecting flights where your inbound flight gets in only 30 minutes or so before your outbound flight and you can't "get there early"?

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