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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols By Sara A. Carter, Staff Writer Article Created: 05/08/2006 08:10:38 PM PDT
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While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.

According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew

where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

Officials with the Mexican consulate in Washington, D.C., could not be reached for comment Monday.

Martinez said reporting the location of immigrant apprehensions to consulate representatives is common practice if an illegal immigrant requests counsel or believes they have been mistreated.

"Once an illegal alien is apprehended, they can request counsel," he said. "We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen."

Martinez said Mexico's official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, a belief the Border Patrol hoped to allay by entering into the cooperative agreement.

One of the documents on the Web site, "Actions of the Mexican Government in Relation to the Activities of Vigilante Groups," states that Mexican consulate representatives stay in close contact with Border Patrol chiefs to ensure the safety of migrants trying to enter the U.S., those being detained and the actions of all "vigilantes" along the border.

"The Mexican consul in Presidio also contacted the chief of the Border Patrol in the Marfa Sector to solicit his cooperation in case they detect any activity of `vigilantes,' and was told to immediately contact the consulate if there was," according to the document.

"Presidio" refers to Presidio County, Texas, which is in the Big Bend region and a gateway to northern Mexico.

The document also describes a meeting with San Diego Border Patrol sector chief Darryl Griffen.

"(Griffen) said that the Border Patrol will not permit any violence or any actions contrary to the law by the groups, and he is continuously aware of (the volunteer organizations') operations," according to the document. "Mr. Griffen reiterated to the undersecretary his promise to notify the General Consul right away when the vigilantes detain or participate in the detention of any undocumented Mexicans."

The documents specifically named the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and its patrols, which began monitoring Arizona's southern border in April 2005, as well as Friends of the Border Patrol, a Chino-based nonprofit.

TJ Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing more than 10,000 Border Patrol agents, said agents have complained for years about the Mexican consulate's influence over the agency.

"It worries me (that the Mexican government) seems to be unduly influencing our enforcement policies. That's not a legitimate role for any foreign nation," Bonner said, though he added, "It doesn't surprise me."

Border Patrol agents interviewed by the Daily Bulletin said they have been asked to report to sector headquarters the location of all civilian volunteer groups, but to not file the groups' names in reports if they spot illegal immigrants.

"Last year an internal memo notified all agents not to give credit to Minuteman volunteers or others who call in sightings of illegal aliens," said one agent, who spoke on the condition he not be identified. "We were told to list it as a citizen call and leave it at that. Many times, we were told not to go out to Minuteman calls."

The document also mentions locations of field operations of Friends of the Border Patrol, which patrolled the San Diego sector from June to November 2005. Mexican officials had access to the exact location of the group founded by Andy Ramirez, which ran its patrols from the Rough Acre Ranch, a private property in McCain Valley.

Ramirez said that for safety reasons, he disclosed the location of his ranch patrol only to San Diego Border Patrol and law enforcement officials. The group did not apprehend or spot any undocumented migrants in that area.

"We did not release this information ... to the media or anyone else," Ramirez said. "We didn't want to publicize that information. But there it is, right on the Mexican government's Web site, and our government gave it to them."

Visit the Mexican Government's Secretary of Foreign Relations Web Site. Third Report on the Activities of Vigilantes. http://www.sre.gob.mx/eventos/minuteman/reporte3.htma>


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ChaosCrew read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 5:49 PM

It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country.


It's not unbelievable at all. this is why individual states are enforcing the immigration laws because our own government is F*****g pathetic & useless when it comes to protecting The American People.....

2ZION read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 6:10 PM

One corrupt government sending intel to another corrupt government? Sounds like a great movie!

Unfortunately, it's reality!

We should DEPORT all 12 million, and send a strong and clear message to Mexico..."Stay Out!"

Then, I can get back to doing my landscaping business. hehe

Hotmamajama read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 7:07 PM

Yes, Send all illegals home to their Countries, Close the Border, return Our language as English only, and return to Our way of life as Americans, period and Don't vote in more jerks!
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This_Aint_Your_Land read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 7:04 AM

Since the beginning of time countries have used wall to keep barbarians out. China's great success today is directly due to keeping out the riffraff. If they could afford to build the Great Wall, why is it impossible for the world's only superpower to build a stinking fence?

Lie number 1 - We can't deport them all. Eisenhower proved it could be done by deporting over one million in a single year.

Lie number 2 - They only take the jobs that Americans won't do. Who did those jobs before the illegals came?

Lie number 3 - Illegal immigrants contribute more than they take from our society. Yeah right, they steal social security numbers to get their jobs, suck up every available resource and send all their money back to Mexico.

The lies go on and on and on, and some people actually believe them.

Did you happen to hear about the traffic tickets that were being processed in Nogales Mexico (complete with all our personal information) or the border patrol's uniforms being manufactured down there?

Bush and his cronies have been bought off by the drug cartels that run the Mexican government. There's no other explanation.

This_Aint_Your_Land read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 7:18 AM

In response to your post, a lot of times the Minutemen will detain illegals and then call the border patrol, but they'll never show up to make the arrests. I have absolutely no doubt that this is due to orders coming directly from the top.

But fortunately some border agents are becoming so fed up by having their hands tied by Bush that they'll joining the Minutemen. And those guys we love, you couldn't hope for more gun ho patriots than that.

This_Aint_Your_Land read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 7:35 AM

One corrupt government sending intel to another corrupt government? Sounds like a great movie!

You know, that's not such a bad idea. The original reality show was COPS, so why not do a series on the Border Patrol. Show everybody exactly what's happening down there. Our vegetable brained society loves sitting in front of the TV, so why not educate them in the process.

Hotmamajama read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 10:15 AM

Also, There's "The Jerry Springer Show" if it doesn't work out.

At least for the "Hard Core Veges" HA!
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