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Agreed, but this country has a good reputation for forgetting the bad things that celebrities do (other than OJ).

I think the saying is "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." We all fall short of the glory...

ddain is correct, we do forget the good things that are done, not just celebrities but people in general as a society...

samo714, I agree with you also, we all make mistakes and most of us learn from them...

Once again, I have not heard any complaints from the troops YET...

Hey Arky51,
I am not here to make a big debate of this but I would like to know some things...

this is your opinion and that is alright, but what about those on capitol hill (won't say any names, but happened recently) that get away with such crimes and are given a pat on the wrist and once it is in the media and the situation dies down...how quickly do we forget...

You are correct. Once again we will not be the final judges, and I am not discerning myself of someone's fruit which is requisite...but focus on the overall picture of those who are more powerful than MJ and OJ.

Once again do research. Over 90% of our serial killers are of the majority with 14% of those being females...

John Wayne Gacy, Christen Gilbert, Nannie Doss, Mary Ann Cotton, Ann Marie Hughes, and Dr. Linda Hazzard just to name a few...

He who is without sin let him cast the first stone (John 8:7)

What about those guys from Enron and the Orange county scandal…it is amazing at what some people want to bring up…were you there when MJ supposedly committed his crimes? And why were those four kids extorting money from MJ that we know of with their parents involved? What about those priests that committed even worst crimes against our children and they are supposed to be an example of men of CHRIST?

First of all, I hang around several of African Americans and I would like to know what about all of those people who took several innocent blacks mostly women & children who were maimed, raped, burned, tortured, hung and brutally beaten unmercifully just for the entertainment of it, with you

Girl, you quote the Bible, but I can't tell that you really know anything about the Lord of lords. And, what do ANY of the OTHER criminals you mentioned have to do with the kind of person that is Michael Jackson?

OH! You forgot Aileen Wournos - she's special.

What do child molester Priests have to do with Christianity? Don't you know what a hypocrite is?

None of my ancestors ever owned slaves, and I won't feel guilty in place of the ones who did. As a matter of fact, I was named Blue-eyed Soul in Vietnam . . . by a Chicago Black. So you want I should touch you, Valley Girl? Most Blacks I know look down on Michael Jackson as a WANNABE Whitey.

By the way, most slave owners NEVER treated their people the way you describe. They needed them healthy to get the work done.

Now, I got only one more thing to say to you, Missy Prissy: God ONLY forgives those who TURN AWAY from worldly things, admit it was SIN to go after them, and focus WHOLEHEARTEDLY on HIM!!

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know any better @”#” If you are going to call me a name, be justifiable in calling me a name, that is like calling me a B word, what are you so angry about?.... GOD said, “I would rather for you to believe in me than to see what man really is.” God, do not let us see the heart of man because men are deceitfully wicked…man is the lover of himself…

How do you know that your ancestors did not owned slaves, it is not like they are going to tell you (DUHHH). My great grandfather was a slave holder and I just found that out last year after trying to write a family book on our history and I am truly hurt… You state that you were named a Blue-eyed Soul in Vietnam . . . by a Chicago Black. So does that justify you as being who you are because you were called that, you could not be just a white person with soul…does soulfulness just belong to one race?…

No, I would not want anyone of your ignorance and incompetence have the pleasure of touching me, nor am I a valley girl. Besides how do you know most blacks are saying that MJ is a wanna be whitey that is just a handful of opinions, or just your perception of things. Believe it or not it was the majority of blacks that purchased over 70 million (states side) of MJ’s Thriller album and over 100 million people in general internationally…

By the way, you state that most slave owners NEVER treated their people the way I described, because. they needed them healthy to get the work done. WRONG READ AND RESEARCH YOUR BLACK HISTORY… So you are basically saying that white slave owners did not maimed or brand their slaves

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several of whites entertainment, and died at the age of 26 from humiliation. She was treated well while she hung from a display tied up 23 hours a day. I am not stating that I am perfect but use some commonsense and wisdom before you try to degrade someone and make sure that you get your facts straight FIRST…

Now work with that and give me some valid solidified facts...

Keep in mind, YOU ATTACKED ME when I agreed with ddain, and took a stand against Michael Jackson. You suggested that I was a decedent of slavers and inferred that I was racist.

Well, SINCE YOU PUT IT THAT WAY, one thing I can say, that I believe 75% of the people on this website would agree on, is that you have a serious case of believing you are more important than you are, and it has resulted in a side effect of diarrhea of the mouth. Probably 60% of what is coming out of your mouth (by way of your keyboard, of course) should be going out the other end. You are so-o anal retentive.

Now, I was NOT calling you a hypocrite. I WAS saying that you lack understanding of God and His ways, but that ignorance can be effectively cured with proper education. I do not propose that I should be the source of that education. I was referring to the Priests of the Church of Rome, and more specifically those who molest little boys.

(Frankly, I don't see why someone living in California, who is as obviously as open minded as you, would have so much problem with that issue. After all, you guys say it's okay to be gay, and after all, the victims were only boys. That shouldn't bother you, being a Modern Feminist.)

I'm really curious what your source is: GOD said, “I would rather for you to believe in me than to see what man really is.” For the life of me, I've never seen anything of that reference in any of the several translations of the Bible I have read and studied. Nevertheless, don't ignore the fact that in this context, “man” refers to women, too.

I know that non

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simply kill all the men, and take all their women. But, most of the times they didn't want them, and as an act of mercy, rather than kill the men and leave the women without, they would sell as slaves to Dutch merchants on the Atlantic Coast. At first, the Dutch Merchants were very surprised, but as their surprise wore off, and they saw the opportunity for profit, they took advantage.

Honey, Whitey didn't destroy the African Nations, Africans did.

You refer to the “Hotten Tott Venus.” The Hottentot Venus was Saartjie Baartman - "Hottentot" was the tribe of her people, and "Venus" was a take-off on works of art depicting the female form. She was orphaned in a raid on her village and subsequently became a paid servant to a Dutch farmer's household. She was lured by the promise of riches to go on an exhibition tour, which she did quite willingly. Her exhibition in London created a scandal and an abolitionist benevolent society (equivalent to a charity or pressure group) called the African Association (formed by white folks like William Wilberforce) petitioned for her release. Baartman was questioned in Dutch, in which she was fluent, before a court, and stated that she was not under restraint and understood perfectly that she was guaranteed half of the profits.

That's all you are going to get, except for one more thing I have to say. The way you IDOLIZE and defend Michael Jackson, and hold faithful to him . . . that's called WORSHIP. That's FACT! Why do you worship Michael Jackson? How many other performers do you worship?

You say you gotta be

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Arky51,
I never said that you were racist, that was your assumption…And I do not think that I am more important than I really am…Once again, that is your assumption…You made an issue of the situation and once again made another assumption of yourself… “ignorance can be effectively cured with proper education.” This is correct, I know nothing of the Priest in Rome because I never studied about them nor do I live in Rome.


(Frankly, I don't have a problem with that issue. After all, “you guys say, it's okay to be gay”, you never heard/read me saying such a thing…Once again, that is your ASSumption and after all it does not matter who the victims were, the fact being is that they were children. PERIOD…

Are you really curious? Proverbs 14:15 A simple man believes anything, but a prudent man gives thought to his steps…. Nevertheless, I did not ignore the fact that in this context, “man” refers to women, too.

“I know that none of my ancestors ever owned slaves because I know my lineage. My family were Scots who immigrated into Ireland at the end of the 18th century.” Do you really? (SMILE)… (You probably had not a clue that the majority of people referred to as hillbillies were of Scottish decent.), actually I did, but I do not see that as being negative only the individual…. You tell me that I can feel ALL THE SHAME that I would like (and I am sure you once again make an ASSumption of yourself since I have African ancestry my dear lost soul (SMILE)…

You stated, “And, the fact that the Chicago Black (we called him Sugar Bear, by the way) declared me to be Blue-eyed